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3NT responses to 2NT openers (Per Facinelli)

#1 User is offline   olegeorge 

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Posted 2011-March-21, 17:30

Peter Facinelli - p.8, March, 2011 - Bridge Bulletin - references responses to 2NT opening bids where:

2NT + 3 which requires opener to rebid 3NT - is used for:

1.) To play hands in 3NT,
2.) To show single suited hands with slam interest in / - 2NT + 3 + 3NT + 4 /4 and
3.) To show slam interest with both minor suits - bidding similar to 2.) above (over the 3NT bid) 4 / - shows a singleton in the suit bid and 5/5 in the minors.

Can anyone explain - the bidding in this method - related to: 2NT + 3NT ??- Facinelli states: "With five spades and four hearts and game values we bid 3NT over 2NT..." It's not clear to me if the 3NT bid is reserved for this single situation - which would I guess allow one to have a bidding sequence such as -
2NT + 3 + 3 + 3 - if desired and agreed upon - to show 5/4 in hearts/spades - in both cases allowing opening bidder to end up in 3NT - with both 5/4 major suit situations when desired.

It seems like this set of bids potentially allows responder and opener - to deal with quite a few possible not-so-common, but potentially important situations without giving up anything significant - (with regular transfers, Puppet Stayman and Gerber).


Any further explanations beyond this and what Facinelli discussed in the Bridge Bulletin would be most welcome and/or other ideas related to how one could potentially use the 3NT response - which could have other meanings including being forcing (if this sequence is not already forcing).

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Posted 2011-March-21, 17:46

You can deal with the 5 and 4 heart hand by modifying puppet. 2NT-3NT as artifical is going to be forgotten by one partner or the other fairly often. Also you allow a lead directing double by bidding 3 when intending to play 3NT.
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Posted 2011-March-22, 02:16

I usually show the 5-4 hands via muppet stayman or romex. When I play 3 as a gadget, I use 3NT as a transfer to (and 4 as a transfer to ). 2NT-3 shows 3NT signoff or slam interest with both minors in that case. If you also include the single suited minor hands in 3 like the description above, I'm not sure what you could use 3NT for. Perhaps minor suit stayman, dunno.
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Posted 2011-March-22, 14:17

I use what I gather is called Muppet Stayman to handle 4/5 hands. 3 is a request for 3NT, either to play or to make minor-suit slam tries (4m 2-suited, 4M single-suited). 2NT-3NT is Baron. If you are concerned about 2NT-3NT artificial, you could play the rest and leave this out; it never comes up. I also play 2NT-4 is pick a major, Texas transfers, 2NT-4 ace-asking (something else that never comes up).
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