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Preempts make the life difficcult

Poll: Preempts make the life difficcult (12 member(s) have cast votes)

What is your bid?

  1. double (4 votes [33.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

  2. pass (8 votes [66.67%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 66.67%

  3. 4NT (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 5 club (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   xx1943 

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Posted 2011-March-21, 09:15

2 diamonds is negative.


RHO takes away your standard 2NT rebid.

1) Is double for penalties, optional or for takeout?
2) Is pass absolutely forcing?



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Posted 2011-March-21, 09:29

I play double is penalty, pass is absolutely forcing.

After I pass, I suppose responder can bid 5D and I can bid 6D.
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Posted 2011-March-21, 16:10

I double (though I see I'm alone at the moment) showing the big balanced hand. Pass is forcing, but could be based on a lot more different hands (various 2 suiters, 1-suiters with 11 tricks in hand etc), not about to torture partner.

The advancements will be the same as y66.
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Posted 2011-March-21, 16:28

First off, how is that hand negative? 6 points and a void opposite 22+ is not negative in any stretch of the imagination, it's actually nearly slammish... I hope you meant 2D was waiting.

As north I'd pass, south would offer 5D (or should, if he bids 4 he's way undervaluing his hand). I'll raise to 6.
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Posted 2011-March-21, 16:48

I play double as showing a strong balanced hand, so I'd do that. With a penalty double I pass.
YES pass is absolutely forcing.

2C P 2D 4C
x P 4D P
5C P 6C P
6D all pass

edit: someone has suggested that 4D is an 'underbid'. How does that make sense? It's forcing, and South isn't certain what strain to play in.
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