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NV vs V, the auction goes:
1♣ - 1♠ - pass - pass
2♣ - 2♠ - 2NT - pass
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How would you interpret the 2NT call (distribution and strength)?
Meaning of 2NT
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Posted 2011-February-28, 03:54
It's very abnormal but it could be: 6-7 HCP with 3 clubs and spade stopper. 'I didn't bid 1NT earlier 'cause I didn't have the HCP's but if your clubs are so good and you have the other stoppers we could have a go at 3NT, if not just bid 3♣'
It could also be: 10-12 with good spades and either 'Now that you rebid clubs I don't want to penalty-double them' or 'Since you rebid your clubs I don't think I'll get to penalty-double them, so NT is our best strain in my opinion'.
Crazy ain't it? But that 2NT is. I guess it's meaning it's just a matter of partnership.
It could also be: 10-12 with good spades and either 'Now that you rebid clubs I don't want to penalty-double them' or 'Since you rebid your clubs I don't think I'll get to penalty-double them, so NT is our best strain in my opinion'.
Crazy ain't it? But that 2NT is. I guess it's meaning it's just a matter of partnership.
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
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Posted 2011-February-28, 04:14
I completely disagree with Hanoi5, I think it is a weak minor oriented takeout not wanting to double because not enough strength to defend 2♠X. Something like a 2=3=6=2 or 1=4=6=2 or 1=3=6=3 or 1=4=5=3 that wasn't strong enough to double 1♠, wants to compete to the 3 level with the reds and especially diamonds in the picture, but knows that 3♣ is a safe landing spot. Say x Txxx QJxxxx Qx.
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Posted 2011-February-28, 06:01
I would think it's a good ♣ raise with values for a direct 1NT bid but without a full stopper. Perhaps:
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Posted 2011-February-28, 09:28
6 diamonds and 2 clubs, any strength.
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Posted 2011-February-28, 11:31
gwnn, on 2011-February-28, 09:28, said:
6 diamonds and 2 clubs, any strength.
Agree, but 3 clubs is possible.
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Posted 2011-March-01, 09:55
4 card disparity in the minors - 6-2 or 7-3
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Posted 2011-March-02, 12:12
minors for me also, 6-3 is possible
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Posted 2011-March-02, 15:41
For those who say minors any strength (or something similar), can this be done on 0HCP with a 6-2/6-3/7-3? Or do you need a useful tophonour somewhere? Or 2 tophonours? And what is in your opinion the main purpose of the call?
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Posted 2011-March-02, 16:34
It's a purely competitive call, I think it should have at least one useful card.
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Posted 2011-March-02, 16:36
I don't think 6-3 is possible.
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Posted 2011-March-02, 17:37
Free, on 2011-March-02, 15:41, said:
For those who say minors any strength (or something similar), can this be done on 0HCP with a 6-2/6-3/7-3? Or do you need a useful tophonour somewhere? Or 2 tophonours? And what is in your opinion the main purpose of the call?
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Posted 2011-March-04, 11:49
If you have no way to show a weak hand with hearts, then I would read it differently...
A double first time would be takeout, so double now would be penalty. I think 2NT is a general purpose forcing bid to get partner to bid again. Maybe something like a 2551 shape, maybe 2 clubs, but certainly both red suits.
Conversely, if you play immediate bids as non-forcing, then I'll go along with the xx62 shape.
A double first time would be takeout, so double now would be penalty. I think 2NT is a general purpose forcing bid to get partner to bid again. Maybe something like a 2551 shape, maybe 2 clubs, but certainly both red suits.
Conversely, if you play immediate bids as non-forcing, then I'll go along with the xx62 shape.
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Posted 2011-March-04, 12:19
The 2551 or whatever just doubles 1♠, wtp?
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Posted 2011-March-04, 16:56
mtvesuvius, on 2011-March-01, 09:55, said:
4 card disparity in the minors - 6-2 or 7-3
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Posted 2011-March-04, 18:04
JLOGIC, on 2011-March-04, 17:36, said:
Don't forget 8-4!
And the 9-5 that forgot to raise.
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Posted 2011-March-04, 18:48
9-5 is impossible, the opps woulda bid more
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Posted 2011-March-05, 05:03
mtvesuvius, on 2011-March-04, 12:19, said:
The 2551 or whatever just doubles 1♠, wtp?
Most people have an agreement that an initial double is strong enough to take a typical non-fitting rebid, for example a takeout double of a 2 bid opposite a non-fitting minimum opener has a reasonable play in 2NT. In this instance, an immediate double will be assumed strong enough to play in 1NT and a good opener can reply 3NT for example.
If this x55x is only a 4 count I (and I am sure many others) would not double. However, if opponents are going to be making 2S then I now have a chance to show my red suits so partner can pick one. This is "tp".