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Easy 2NT imo

[luke warm]

Hannie, on Sep 5 2004, 06:39 PM, said:

Whether 2S should be a FNJ or natural depends a bit on your style of opening weak 2's. My agreement with my regular partner's is that a non-jump bid in a new suit at the 2-level is natural, but at the 3-level or higher it is a FNJ. This may not be optimal, but at least we know what we are playing.

I think that this hand is not good enough to force to game, so I wouldn't bid 3S. I would need something like AQJxx Kxxx xxx x or even AJ10xx Kxxxx xx x. I would bid 2S if available, else 2NT.

i pretty much agree with this, hannie, except when the 2 level bid "preempts" partner's overcall (given that i'm a passed hand)... it seems to me that i should have a strong tolerance, at least, for pard's suit else i should suppress mine

when it comes down to it, if i'm strong nuff to bid a suit at the 2 level that's higher ranked than pard's overcall, i was surely strong enough to open ... fluffy thinks (as did you) the hand isn't quite strong enough for a 3S bid, and his judgments are usually right... others have said the 2S as a fnj isn't correct because of the A nothing, and they also have a good point.. i'd still do it, because i'm not sure who will buy the hand and i want partner to be better able to judge

[flytoox]

4C splinter, else 4H, dont mess around with 2S or whatever.

[han]

luke warm, on Sep 5 2004, 02:30 PM, said:

Hannie, on Sep 5 2004, 06:39 PM, said:

Whether 2S should be a FNJ or natural depends a bit on your style of opening weak 2's. My agreement with my regular partner's is that a non-jump bid in a new suit at the 2-level is natural, but at the 3-level or higher it is a FNJ. This may not be optimal, but at least we know what we are playing.

i pretty much agree with this, hannie, except when the 2 level bid "preempts" partner's overcall (given that i'm a passed hand)... it seems to me that i should have a strong tolerance, at least, for pard's suit else i should suppress mine

OK, you have convinced me. I will suggest to my partners that my bid in a new suit above their suit at the two level also implies a fit. However, could it be an invitational hand with 3-card support, or even Hx in their suit?

To play that 2S shows 4-card support sure works well here, but I doubt that it's best.

Of course, I would never bid 2S with a pick-up partner (but I must say I find the question far more interesting with a regular partner. If you have no idea how partner is going to interpret your bid, you might as well bid 4H, yuck!).

[luke warm]

Hannie, on Sep 6 2004, 12:29 AM, said:

~snip~However, could it be an invitational hand with 3-card support, or even Hx in their suit?

To play that 2S shows 4-card support sure works well here, but I doubt that it's best.~snip~

i think you can play it any way you want, but to me it depends on the strength of the hand... with the hand given, i'd bid 2S with 3 card support (tho 4 sure is nice)... i'm less certain of Hx... i'd be more tempted to pass or raise (especially if pard's overcall was at the 2 level)

added by edit: btw hannie, on the 3 card support question... i think it depends more on whether the hand is more offensive than defensive... reason is, you have a cue bid to show a defensive hand with 3 card support... you also have 2NT to show a defensive type hand with Hx (but i think you'd have to be max for your original pass, especially without some kind of fit for partner)