[Poky]

MP. All love.

♠AQx
♥AQxxx
♦KQx
♣xx

pass* - 2♥** - pass - pass
2♠ - pass - ???

* You are playing standard weak-2, sometimes with 5 cards (if good 5431 hand)
** Hearts+minor, weak

[luke warm]

3S.. i'd like to bid 3H but i'm not sure it would be universally (or even by the majority) understood as anything other than a nt try...

4S might be too unilateral, same for 3nt... oh well

[hrothgar]

5 loser hand. Support for partner. Ruffing values...
I'm bidding 4S.

This should play very well, even opposite the expected heart void...

[the hog]

Bidding game of course! Give up on slam and bid a simple 4S.

Why did I pass on the first round? Was I called to the phone and the drink waiter held my cards?

[han]

2NT, on the first round that is. A similar hand was posted not too long ago. Passing works out well once in a while, but 2NT is much better on average imo.

Now I agree with 4S. It seems almost impossible that partner has chances for 6 (besides, it's too late to describe my hand anyway), while even the worst hand should have a shot at game.

[skorchev]

Hi Poky,

I interested what mean these bids (2NT, 3♣,3♦,3♥,3♠) by your system.

BTW I don't like East's pass too, but however ...


Stefan

[Free]

I think he was hoping to get a penalty Dbl... Now when you don't get one, bid game: 4♠. If you REALLY want to bid safely, bid 3♥ as invitation or so.

[whereagles]

Pard has 5134 or 5143 and passed due to poor spades. Still, I'm bidding 4S, which should have a good chance to make on a cross-ruff.

[Free]

I don't think you'll get your crossruff that easy whereagles, if your partner has nothing in ♣s, then you might nog even have a trump left in dummy to ruff his 3rd ♣. There's also a danger when partner has too many ♥s that they might start with some ruffing and crossing (♥, ♣, ♥, ♣,...), and because of this it might (just might) be better to invite to 4♠. Still not my choice, but also acceptable imo.

[whereagles]

Pard is likely to have a heart singleton: LHO passed the 2H opening, so he probably has two hearts. In which case pard will be ruffing hearts over LHO. Still, whether to invite or bid game is perhaps a matter of style (yours and pard's, lol).

[Free]

Woops, didn't see 2♥ was ♥+m. Then he should indeed have 2-3 ♥s, and with a very small chance only 1...

[joker_gib]

Partner has passed so 4♠, what else ??

[Poky]

skorchev, on Sep 8 2004, 08:06 AM, said:

Hi Poky,

I interested what mean these bids (2NT, 3♣,3♦,3♥,3♠) by your system.

Hi!

2NT = natural, invitational to 3NT
3m = probably to play (not agreed)
3♥ = spade raise, better than 3♠
3♠ = spade raise, invitational in this sequence ("bid game with max")
3NT = natural, to play

[Fluffy]

Partner knows we are morons in look for penalties passing, but poor him didn´t want to reopen doubling... guess why? he knows exactly what is going on, bidding 4♠ is IMO punishing partner for a good apreciation of the situation, he is probably very weak. Give him a chance to stop.

[whereagles]

He can't be much weaker than

KTxxx
x
Axx
xxxx

and this offers reasonable play for 4S.

[luke warm]

whereagles, on Sep 8 2004, 03:22 PM, said:

He can't be much weaker than

KTxxx
x
Axx
xxxx

and this offers reasonable play for 4S.

i don't think that's abundantly clear... i passed hoping for xx with a 17 count... weak 2 opener can easily have 9, 10 hcp... his partner can also easily have 12, 13 count.. it's *very* possible my pard has a queen period...

i agree with fluffy, which is why i said 4S or 3nt might be a tad unilateral... 3H seems the best bid, if it isn't understood as nt look... it should say you have support and would like to go higher than 3S, but you aren't sure of his hand

[joker_gib]

Fluffy, on Sep 8 2004, 07:30 AM, said:

Partner knows we are morons in look for penalties passing, but poor him didn´t want to reopen doubling... guess why? he knows exactly what is going on, bidding 4♠ is IMO punishing partner for a good apreciation of the situation, he is probably very weak. Give him a chance to stop.

Agree with you but I assume that partner is not able to judge himself because there are a lot of weak hands that lead to game, so I just bid it !

[whereagles]

Luke: If pard has

KTxxx
x
xxx
xxxx

don't you think he might have passed 2H for a possible +150, instead of trying for +110, which runs the risk of hearing pard bid 4S and go -50?

In the auction
p 2H p p
2S p 3H p
??
unless in your style KTxxx x Axx xxxx is a clear-cut 4S reply to the 3H cue, an immediate 4S is perhaps better than the cue.

But then again, as I said, to invite or just bid 4S is a matter of style.

[the hog]

Someone wants to stop in 3??????????????
Kxxxx
xx
Axxxx
x

Gives him a great play for 6.

Unless your partners protect on Kxxxx and out, this is a 4S bid.

[paulhar]

Free, on Sep 8 2004, 03:01 AM, said:

If you REALLY want to bid safely, bid 3♥ as invitation or so.

And would anyone pass 3S if partner bid it?