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#1 User is offline   Rossoneri 

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Posted 2011-January-28, 04:49



Do you agree that bidding 5♠ is clearcut?
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Posted 2011-January-28, 09:20

I don't quite agree it is obvious. If this is a Forcing Pass situation then I'd bid 5♠, but with what sort of hand would partner re-open Red vs White in 4th seat? I'd bid 5♠ myself, but I'm willing to listen and understand other points of view as I consider myself a little ignorant of these situations.

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Posted 2011-January-28, 12:47

Yes, it is clearcut.
No, it is not a forcing pass situation (LHO may have more HCP than you and partner combined)

The real problem with bidding 5S is that I might have to bid 6S over 6H too.
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Posted 2011-January-28, 14:15

I'm kinda tempted by 6♦, but I'd content myself with 5♠
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Posted 2011-January-31, 19:57

The full hand:


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Posted 2011-February-01, 06:39

View PostHanoi5, on 2011-January-28, 09:20, said:

I don't quite agree it is obvious. If this is a Forcing Pass situation then I'd bid 5♠, but with what sort of hand would partner re-open Red vs White in 4th seat? I'd bid 5♠ myself, but I'm willing to listen and understand other points of view as I consider myself a little ignorant of these situations.



Is it really a Forcing Pass ?
I am not sure...What would be your rule ?
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Posted 2011-February-01, 06:58

View PostLurpoa, on 2011-February-01, 06:39, said:

Is it really a Forcing Pass ?
I am not sure...What would be your rule ?

Most have a rule, especially at this vulnerability, that a pass would be forcing if we have bid game on power and the opponents bid on. That is not the case here.
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Posted 2011-February-02, 04:32

View Postpaulg, on 2011-February-01, 06:58, said:

Most have a rule, especially at this vulnerability, that a pass would be forcing if we have bid game on power and the opponents bid on. That is not the case here.



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Posted 2011-February-02, 11:59

View PostLurpoa, on 2011-February-02, 04:32, said:

Did we bid game on power ?

Certainly seems like it, and many people have a rule that when R/W they use forcing passes more often as well.
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Posted 2011-February-03, 05:42

I think it's pretty obvious, yes.
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Posted 2011-February-03, 06:11

View Postmtvesuvius, on 2011-February-02, 11:59, said:

Certainly seems like it, and many people have a rule that when R/W they use forcing passes more often as well.



Oh yes, for the 4♠ bidder, that is clear !
But for the poor doubler, who now has to take a decision, on the so-called FP (?) from partner, that is not so clear. From his viewpoint, 4♠ could be on a bare minimum.
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Posted 2011-February-03, 06:23

View PostLurpoa, on 2011-February-03, 06:11, said:

Oh yes, for the 4♠ bidder, that is clear !
But for the poor doubler, who now has to take a decision, on the so-called FP (?) from partner, that is not so clear. From his viewpoint, 4♠ could be on a bare minimum.



Got this wrong again !!!
Yes, it is up to the 4♠ to make a decision here.
Yes, 5♠, seems some kind of an insurance...... HURRAY !

I do not think that you can call this a FP situation: if E has a worthless hand, he passes.

PS - once again I learned.... tu all for those discussions....:) ♥
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