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#1 User is offline   mich-b 

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Posted 2010-December-28, 02:13



Playing 2/1 , Teams , do you invite or blast?
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Posted 2010-December-28, 03:09

Blast. More likely to get friendly lead on a blast than over an invite. Would be more conservative at matchpoints.
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Posted 2010-December-28, 03:11

3♥, he still has a lot of ♠ losers to get rid of.
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Posted 2010-December-28, 03:19

View Postpaulg, on 2010-December-28, 03:09, said:

Blast. More likely to get friendly lead on a blast than over an invite.

Won't they nearly always lead a trump, whether it goes ...2♥-4♥ or ...2♥-3♥-4♥?
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Posted 2010-December-28, 03:44

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Playing 2/1 , Teams , do you invite or blast?


If playing Gazzilli (or sort of) where 2♥ is limited to 15 hcp, I would bid 3♥ showing this kind of constructive hand.

If not (2♥= 12 to bad 18), I have too much to bid 3♥ like I should with xx KQxx Axxx xxx, so blasting 4♥ is mandatory (if imps mark)
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Posted 2010-December-28, 04:30

Good point!
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Posted 2010-December-28, 08:42

Bid game. It's vul and it's imps, anything could happen like a friendly lead or a misdefence. I've got sharp cards too so I don't know why I'm trying to find reasons not to bid game.
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Posted 2010-December-28, 08:50

View Postmich-b, on 2010-December-28, 02:13, said:



Playing 2/1 , Teams , do you invite or blast?


basically you will never convince partner you are this good with a 3♥ call. Consequently you need to just grab the bull by the horns and guess that 4♥ is right. And since many play a 3♠ call as a 3 card limit raise of ♠ they can't even use that as a splinter raise of ♥ if you had another Limit Raise call for ♠ you could use a 3♠ call to help the defense :)
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Posted 2010-December-28, 13:34

Blast. I blast this hand NV or at MP too.

As already said... there is NO way partner's going to place you with this much if you only invite.
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Posted 2010-December-28, 13:48

I think blasting to slam would be a very bad idea here. I would be content with bidding game.
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Posted 2010-December-28, 14:18

Partner can have a wide range so we would need to raise on many hands worth only two and a half hearts. Therefore when we hold a hand worth three and a half hearts we need to just bid game. The given hand is even better than that.
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Posted 2010-December-28, 14:19

View Postmich-b, on 2010-December-28, 02:13, said:



Playing 2/1 , Teams , do you invite or blast?



4h will try for the vul game.
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Posted 2010-December-28, 20:33

View Postmich-b, on 2010-December-28, 02:13, said:

IMO, At teams, 4♥ = 10, 3♥ = 7.
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Posted 2010-December-29, 01:57

blast

If pard is min, it will probably depend on the location of high cards. But you have no methods to evaluate that, so better look at the bright side of life.

This can easily make either 5 or... 2 :)
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Posted 2010-December-29, 05:08

I don't see what is special about this hand for not bidding 3♥
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Posted 2010-December-29, 06:25

View PostValardent, on 2010-December-28, 03:44, said:

If playing Gazzilli (or sort of) where 2♥ is limited to 15 hcp, I would bid 3♥ showing this kind of constructive hand.

If not (2♥= 12 to bad 18), I have too much to bid 3♥ like I should with xx KQxx Axxx xxx, so blasting 4♥ is mandatory (if imps mark)


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Posted 2010-December-29, 07:35

View Posthan, on 2010-December-29, 06:25, said:

Agree.


Wow, don't agree, even playing precision or gazilli where 3H is not a courtesy raise I would just bid game here.
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