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#1 User is offline   Hanoi5 

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Posted 2010-December-27, 17:44

Red vs White, you receive:

KT9x
ATxx
x
AKxx

It goes:

3 X 3 X
Pa ???

What do you bid? What's going on?

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2010-December-27, 19:09

View PostHanoi5, on 2010-December-27, 17:44, said:

Red vs White, you receive:

KT9x
ATxx
x
AKxx

It goes:

3 X 3 X
Pa ???

What do you bid? What's going on?


Pass, flushing out lho.
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Posted 2010-December-27, 21:33

Pass is OK. I don't mind 4 either, just to let partner know I have a nice offensive hand for hearts now rather than after 5.
If partner's double isn't for penalty, I can't really comment as I'm not familiar with t/o doubles here.
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Posted 2010-December-28, 06:34

View PostHanoi5, on 2010-December-27, 17:44, said:

Red vs White, you receive:

KT9x
ATxx
x
AKxx

It goes:

3 X 3 X
Pa ???

What do you bid? What's going on?

Pass

(3) X (3) X
(Pass) Pass (4) Pass
(Pass) ??
What is DBL now? I think it should show exactly this hand: Aces and Kings?
(1)-X-(1)-X
(Pass)-Pass-(2)-X
Normally we play that if opps run from a penalty DBL then all later DBL's are penalty. But that shouldn't apply here?
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Posted 2010-December-28, 06:54

as l milne I don't mind pass or 4, I don't have enough experience on this situations to tell wich one works better.
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Posted 2010-December-28, 12:15

I think I like 4H, just in case LHO bids 5D, which would leave me poorly placed. If I bid 4H and it goes 5D P P to me, I can happily double.
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Posted 2010-December-28, 13:09

4. I'm not good enough for 4.

Be sure and thank LHO for allowing us chance to both show a good hand with hearts.

Don't be an idiot and pass.
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Posted 2010-December-28, 13:32

View PostHanoi5, on 2010-December-27, 17:44, said:

Red vs White, you receive: KT9x ATxx x AKxx
3 X 3 X
Pa ???
What do you bid? What's going on?
IMO _P = 10, 4 = 4. A possible problem with bidding 4 is that this is an unclear and rare situation. In analogous contexts, taking out partner's double of a suit into the same suit, a level higher, may show a distributional monster with a void in opponent's suit.
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Posted 2010-December-28, 14:36

View Postnige1, on 2010-December-28, 13:32, said:

IMO _P = 10, 4 = 4. A possible problem with bidding 4 is that this is an unclear and rare situation. In analogous contexts, taking out partner's double of a suit into the same suit, a level higher, may show a distributional monster with a void in opponent's suit.


Somehow I think you are out of context with a followup post where RHO runs to 4 I think at this point in the auction bidding 4 rather than passing the X is just insane.
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Posted 2010-December-28, 17:00

View PostPhil, on 2010-December-28, 13:09, said:

4. I'm not good enough for 4. Be sure and thank LHO for allowing us chance to both show a good hand with hearts. Don't be an idiot and pass.

View Postnige1, on 2010-December-28, 13:32, said:

IMO _P = 10, 4 = 4. A possible problem with bidding 4 is that this is an unclear and rare situation. In analogous contexts, taking out partner's double of a suit into the same suit, a level higher, may show a distributional monster with a void in opponent's suit.

View Postpooltuna, on 2010-December-28, 14:36, said:

Somehow I think you are out of context with a followup post where RHO runs to 4 I think at this point in the auction bidding 4 rather than passing the X is just insane.
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