[matmat]

You're playing with a good expert partner, if it matters. IMPs, all white.

Have fun!

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[mfa1010]

I have no clue. I'll try a brave 5♦.

[Phil]

If I ever saw a 6 of a minor opener, this is it. I'm not selling out to 5M.

Hell, I'm not sure I'm selling out to 6M either LOL.

[Cascade]

Phil, on 2010-November-01, 10:29, said:

If I ever saw a 6 of a minor opener, this is it. I'm not selling out to 5M.

Hell, I'm not sure I'm selling out to 6M either LOL.

I don't like the combination of opening 6♦ and diving over 6Major. Perhaps if LHO bids 6Major and partner does not double there is a case but even then it could be wrong.

Opening 5♦ has the major problem that partner will seldom raise when it is right on the other hand it is hard to get to our most likely game if we start with 6♦.

Given I anticipate having to make another decision opening lower has some appeal to me.

But anything could be right.

[wyman]

Cascade, on 2010-November-01, 10:53, said:

But anything could be right.

This.

At the table, I'd probably pass. There's no way this is getting passed out. I'll wait and see what happens. I'm hoping to play 5Dx or 6Dx, but I don't know which yet. I really don't want this to go 5D-(5M)-p-p, or 6D-(x)-p-p, because then it's guesswork.

[Fluffy]

IF they voercall 6♦ with 6M then I have a lightner double of either major... oh wait

[Cascade]

Fluffy, on 2010-November-01, 11:40, said:

IF they voercall 6♦ with 6M then I have a lightner double of either major... oh wait

With luck partner will save you.

[Cyberyeti]

I tend to pass on hands as extreme as this, so far on a small sample (I've held 10 card suits 3 times, twice first up), I've reached the right spot for a loss of IMPS or poor MP score each time.

[pooltuna]

matmat, on 2010-November-01, 09:56, said:

You're playing with a good expert partner, if it matters. IMPs, all white.

Have fun!

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Your best shot at playing a contract is just to bid it so ---- 6♦. The combination of needing A,K♣ or the 8♦ and another cover card probably pushes it over 50%

[Cascade]

pooltuna, on 2010-November-01, 11:58, said:

Your best shot at playing a contract is just to bid it so ---- 6♦. The combination of needing A,K♣ or the 8♦ and another cover card probably pushes it over 50%

What for down one?

[mike777]

1d

[the hog]

6D. The passers are funny!

[phil_20686]

If you bid 6D straight up, you will certainly leave the opps with the last guess. Maybe they guess right. But 6dx-1 is very unlikely to score badly. Even 6dx-2 could be a huge win on the board.

[phil_20686]

Cyberyeti, on 2010-November-01, 11:55, said:

I tend to pass on hands as extreme as this, so far on a small sample (I've held 10 card suits 3 times, twice first up), I've reached the right spot for a loss of IMPS or poor MP score each time.

This is the first time I have ever seen someone who wanted to have the last guess. Also, it might be very hard to convince partner that he really wants to play in diamonds when he is 8-4 in the majors

[mtvesuvius]

Probably 6♦ for me, although most people who know me well would probably guess I would pass this

I am not bidding over 6M, so bidding to the level that I am going to bid later anyway seems reasonable enough.

[bucky]

I would probably choose between 5♦ and 6♦, but like others said, anything could be right. I am not sure if the actual result from this hand would teach me anything. The sample space is so small that the success or failure of a certain bid isn't meaningful enough to generalize.

[Cyberyeti]

phil_20686, on 2010-November-02, 05:22, said:

This is the first time I have ever seen someone who wanted to have the last guess. Also, it might be very hard to convince partner that he really wants to play in diamonds when he is 8-4 in the majors

Example

void, Ax, x, AKJxxxxxxx

You pass, and it goes 4♠-P-P-? I decided this didn't change who had how many points that much, but partner's were less likely to be in spades, so I bid the cold 6♣. Unfortunately they got doubled in it at the other table.

Second example

AQJxxxxxxx, void, void, xxx

I passed and managed to find out through a detailed auction that partner had a 0454 18 ish count with 2 of the 3 aces and ace and/or king in all three suits. I bid 6♠ on balance of probabilities. Partner had void, AQJx, AQxxx, KQJx or similar, Kx of trumps were onside, and both red suit kings offside. I was one of 2 declarers doubled in this, and they led a singleton trump at the other doubled table

You can usually take a fairly early guess not the last one, and do it with some useful information in the bank.

[Flameous]

I'm opening 10-12NT, it denies two singletons with us but luckily I have none this time
Another funny thing to do with this hand would be to open multi, and keep on correcting to diamonds. I hope partner will eventually pass it and opps might want to double it then.

[Cyberyeti]

Flameous, on 2010-November-03, 17:35, said:

I'm opening 10-12NT, it denies two singletons with us but luckily I have none this time
Another funny thing to do with this hand would be to open multi, and keep on correcting to diamonds. I hope partner will eventually pass it and opps might want to double it then.

You might get away with the multi thing here, but otherwise you could fall foul of the "You forgot the system and were alerted by partner's alert", "no I didn't, I psyched Ghestem with a club suit" type argument.

[mtvesuvius]

Cyberyeti, on 2010-November-04, 03:55, said:

You might get away with the multi thing here, but otherwise you could fall foul of the "You forgot the system and were alerted by partner's alert", "no I didn't, I psyched Ghestem with a club suit" type argument.

I highly doubt even directors would believe that you were intending to open a weak 2♦ on this hand