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Posted 2010-October-20, 09:00

Applying what I've learned from the 2C discussion (mostly that 2M needs to be forcing)....

Our 2D is 10-15, 6+ diamonds, no 4-cd major although up to 4C permitted.

2H-GF relay
.....2S-4 clubs
.....2N-balanced (probably 10-13 else 1N opening)
.....3C-higher
.....etc

2S-a GI ask

2N-forcing, spades

3C-forcing, hearts

3D-weak

3M-FSJ

I'm thinking that we have less room over 3C (hearts) than over 2N (spades) so the 3C bid needs to be more precise in what it shows. I'm thinking that it should be 12+ in pts whereas the 2N could be 9+ (with tolerance).

Then the 2S bid has to handle hands with 5 hearts and 9-11 with diamond tolerance.

2D-2S
.....2N-weak
..........P-12-13 misfitting
..........3C-5 hearts, 9-11, diamond fit?
..........3D-nf
.....3C-medium, 3 hearts?
.....3D-medium, not 3 hearts?
.....3H-maximum, 3 hearts?

Or should we devote space to finding club fits?
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Posted 2010-October-20, 09:09

Your most common goal is 3NT. Play 2M as stop: is this the suit you fear, partner? Or can you support this M?
Try hard for the 3NT on running minor.
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Posted 2010-October-20, 14:12

Mark Abraham's plays a near identical 2D opening (6+ diamonds and up to 4 clubs). Here's his structure...

2H.....Game-forcing relay
.....2S 2-suited with 6+D and 4C (symmetric continuations) (impossible shapes are omitted from the structure)
.....2NT+ 1-suited with 6+D (symmetric continuations)

2S Natural, non-forcing (5)6+S
.....2NT 7+D with broken suit and heart and club honours
.....3C 3S 3+C 0-1H
.....3D Solid 7+D
.....3H 3S 3H 0-1C
.....3S 3S minimum balanced
.....3NT Impossible
.....4D Solid diamonds and 3S
.....4H 3S maximum balanced

2NT Natural, invitational
3C Not invitational, wide-ranging, seeking a club contract when responder has four clubs and a diamond contract otherwise
3D Not invitational, wide-ranging
3H Natural, non-forcing (5)6+H

3S/4C Fit-showing jump, 6 cards in the suit bid and 3D
4NT Both minors, requesting a 5C response when holding four clubs
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Posted 2010-October-20, 17:19

2H-GF relay
2S-GI ask, holds one or both 5-cd majors
.....2N-minimum, no major
..........3C-nf, 4 clubs
..........3D-nf
..........3H-6H
..........3S-6S
.....3C-minimum, 3H
..........3D-5S
..........3H-nf
..........3S-6S
.....3D-minimum, 3 spades, not 3H
.........3H-6H
.........3S-nf
.....3H-max, 3 hearts
..........3S-6 spades
..........3N-5 spades
.....3S-max, 3 spades
.....3N-max, no major
2N-GI, misfitting diamonds or positional for NT, nf
.....3C-weak, 4 clubs
3C-constructive diamond raise
3D-weak
3H-clubs, invitational
3S-LR in diamonds
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Posted 2010-October-20, 18:16

2M with us is NF (our 2 can be on 5-4 with clubs). 2NT is forcing inquiry.
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Posted 2010-October-20, 19:13

View Postkeylime, on 2010-October-20, 18:16, said:

2M with us is NF (our 2 can be on 5-4 with clubs). 2NT is forcing inquiry.


What's your whole structure? What are the requirements for 2M response and for pass? What are the continuations after 2D-2N?
And what are 3L responses?
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