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#1 User is offline   Tomi2 

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Posted 2010-September-27, 19:19

Hi,

would it be possible to remember the users in the starting screen or somewhere else, that bridge is a mind sport and sometimes players need to think?

Today I played 2 tournaments and had td at my table 4 times. I wrote "Think" to table or opps privtely everytime i took more than 20 sec, but after 30 sec. td was called...

best was in a clocked tourney with 9 minutes to go some tricks befor the end on the last board of the set I had to find a discard...

in the very first one I had some dfficult 7-4 hand with a guy know well but we never played before, we had some competitive auction and I had to decide to go for slam or stay in game. after less than one minute (i already wrote think...) I had the TD at my table, the discussion with the td took much longer and i still had no solution for my problem...

I hope the admins can remind the players to be a bit more patient, and give a player, who already apologizes for his thinking more time - calling director brings a rude atmosphere, gives the td too much work and does not help to fasten the game!

I dont understand why people sign in to a tournament, even a clocked one, and simply click randomly on cards
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Posted 2010-September-27, 19:44

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
too slow.

*logs off*
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Posted 2010-September-27, 20:42

If one person complains that you're too slow, maybe that guy is just impatient. If four different people complain that you're too slow, then it is almost certainly the case that you are too slow.
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Posted 2010-September-28, 00:25

Bbradley62, on Sep 28 2010, 03:42 AM, said:

If one person complains that you're too slow, maybe that guy is just impatient. If four different people complain that you're too slow, then it is almost certainly the case that you are too slow.

Especially if you end all rounds with several minutes left on the clock??
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Posted 2010-September-28, 04:38

I hate people who are like that (saying fasterr plzzzzzzzz, not the thinkers :) ). Most of them would happily take 30 secs or more over a "difficult" problem, but expect you to know what to do instantly.
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Posted 2010-September-28, 05:39

I have in my profile

rushers=>enemies

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  Posted 2010-September-28, 08:24

I have a quip that goes along the lines of "The restroom's over there if you need it, since you seem to be in a rush.".
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Posted 2010-September-28, 08:41

The rushers are often the same group that plays all 13 cards one at a time when they could have claimed at trick 2 (or at least some time earlier). My advise tell them "If you are so worried about time you need to CECO!"
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Posted 2010-September-28, 09:24

what's CECO??
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Posted 2010-September-28, 10:26

gwnn, on Sep 28 2010, 10:24 AM, said:

what's CECO??

Claim early; claim often?
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Posted 2010-September-28, 12:13

pooltuna, on Sep 28 2010, 09:41 AM, said:

The rushers are often the same group that plays all 13 cards one at a time when they could have claimed at trick 2 (or at least some time earlier). My advise tell them "If you are so worried about time you need to CECO!"

This is true. No claims at their tables.


Every once in a while when I claim early and get rejected i make it a point to play the cards out extra slowly so they have a chance to contemplate the hand.
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Posted 2010-September-28, 15:18

When you're playing f2f, everyone can see that you're struggling; in online bridge, there's no way to tell why you're being slow.

But even so, it's extremely rude to rush people. There may be some justification in a speedball, but even then saying "faster" isn't likely to get someone with a difficult problem to speed up.

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Posted 2010-October-02, 06:20

Playing f2f, I rarely have time problems. I doubt I have had a late play in the last ten years. Playing in timed tourneys, not the speedballs, I think I can honestly say that expiration of time has, at least almost always, been due to any of a variety of circumstances beyond my control. Someone gets disconnected and we have to wait for a sub, or there is the need for a director and it takes a while, etc.
I don't much like the speedballs, I am already too inclined to play first and think later, without going with a format that encourages it. But as long as I avoid that format, I seldom have time issues.

This has not made me immune to the "faster pls" or "pls play/bid" messages. I regard it as rude, and when, as sometimes happens, it comes after about five seconds of thought I regard it as very rude. Usually I ignore it. Sometimes, if I get a couple of good boards and finish with a couple of minutes on the clock I am tempted to send back something such as "Was that fast enough for you?" but I usually restrain myself.
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Posted 2010-October-02, 07:35

kenberg, on Oct 2 2010, 07:20 AM, said:

Playing f2f, I rarely have time problems. I doubt I have had a late play in the last ten years.

Does anyone have late plays?
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Posted 2010-October-02, 08:13

TimG, on Oct 2 2010, 08:35 AM, said:

kenberg, on Oct 2 2010, 07:20 AM, said:

Playing f2f, I rarely have time problems. I doubt I have had a late play in the last ten years.

Does anyone have late plays?

Yes, sometimes. Or penalties, or warnings or whatever. My point was that I don't usually have troubles with the clock. It doesn't stop people from rushing me, or trying to.
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Posted 2010-October-10, 21:32

TO be devil's advocate here there are times when the opps simply ARE taking too much time..esp in speedball but sometimes just in normal clocked tourneys.

If the first hand has taken over half the time allotted (usually because of the opps slow bidding and play) and you can see that you are going to be declarer in a possibly difficult contract, it is very hard to resist pleading with the opps to please bid/play a little faster as they sit for 30 seconds before each and every pass and before playing each and every card as the clock ticks merrilly away.

One habit these players tend to have is to take 10-20 seconds to play even the LAST card of the hand which is both annoying and bewildering.
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