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#1 User is offline   Phil 

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Posted 2010-October-13, 10:47

An interesting problem Fred had in the 1Q of the final today:

Scoring: IMP

pass - 3N - pass - 4♣;
All pass

3N was "gambling with an outside A or K".

4♣ is p/c


Partner leads the ♦9 and declarer plays small.

Plan your defense.
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Posted 2010-October-13, 10:54

Overtake with the J, K♠, 2♠ if it holds.

Now to look up the hand and see how stupid I look.
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Posted 2010-October-13, 11:06

Oof, that heart void is scary, but with the AK of hearts I would think 3NT would be left in, so I'm gonna (overtake and) try a trump to stop a pointed suit ruff that they might go for. That seems like the only place our tricks are likely to go.
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Posted 2010-October-13, 11:15

Phil, on Oct 13 2010, 11:47 AM, said:

An interesting problem Fred had in the 1Q of the final today:

Dealer: West
Vul: Both
Scoring: IMP
♠ xxx
♥  
♦ KT6
♣ AKQT9xx
 
♠ K2
♥ Qx
♦ AQJ8xxx
♣ xx
pass - 3N - pass - 4♣;
All pass

3N was "gambling with an outside A or K".

4♣ is p/c


Partner leads the ♦9 and declarer plays small.

Plan your defense.

well my inclination is to win the J and fire back a trump to reduce ♦ ruff's in declarer's hand. With my usual luck when I lead a ♣ declarer discards <_<
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Posted 2010-October-13, 12:41

Cyberyeti, on Oct 13 2010, 11:54 AM, said:

Overtake with the J, K♠, 2♠ if it holds.

This was my first inclination as well.
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Posted 2010-October-13, 13:21

Phil, on Oct 13 2010, 12:47 PM, said:

An interesting problem Fred had in the 1Q of the final today:

Partner leads the ♦9 and declarer plays small.

Plan your defense.

Do you know if they play udca or standard carding?
Is the word "pass" not in your vocabulary?
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Posted 2010-October-13, 13:45

bid_em_up, on Oct 13 2010, 02:21 PM, said:

Phil, on Oct 13 2010, 12:47 PM, said:

An interesting problem Fred had in the 1Q of the final today:

Partner leads the ♦9 and declarer plays small.

Plan your defense.

Do you know if they play udca or standard carding?

Yes I think they play UDCA. Why do you think it matters?
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Posted 2010-October-13, 15:07

..
Is the word "pass" not in your vocabulary?
So many experts, not enough X cards.
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Posted 2010-October-16, 11:32

Perhaps this is not as interesting as I thought. :wacko:
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Posted 2010-October-16, 12:26

I'd play the 8 of diamonds. If partner plays the ace and another spade, I'll go back to diamonds. If partner plays a low spade, I'll play the king and if it holds, return a low spade.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-October-16, 13:06

hanp, on Oct 16 2010, 01:26 PM, said:

I'd play the 8 of diamonds. If partner plays the ace and another spade, I'll go back to diamonds. If partner plays a low spade, I'll play the king and if it holds, return a low spade.

In your mind is the ♦8

- count (showing an odd#)?
- attitude (stating that you can handle a spade shift)?
- suit preference for spade?

I have my own ideas, and I have a different reason for posting, but I'd like to let the discussion run in this direction for now.
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