[raist]

your hand is Axxx T98x JT9xx -
all red, partner (1)opens/(2) overcalls opener's 1C with 1S, rho double. what do you bid and how clear is your decision?
to clarify:

2H = good Spade raise (usually 8-10, 3+ cards)
2S = rubbish spade raise (5-7 on these colours, 3+ cards)
3H = mixed raise (6-9, with 4+ cards)
3S = pre emptive raise (0-6, with 4+ cards)

i don't think any other bid makes sense, but just in case, fit jumps are on

oh i forgot. how man of you bid GAME? in either situation?
btw this is sort of like an idiot check. i have a good idea what should be the right actions, but i have difficulty convincing my partner

[655321]

raist, on Oct 12 2010, 09:56 AM, said:

i have a good idea what should be the right actions

Then why is there no poll option for 4♠?

[gszeszycki]

just bid 4s in either circumstance and especially at imps. It is not that you have only 4 points. Your spade length has hurt partners hand defensively and you have 2 or even 3 club ruffs making your hand way too strong offensively to make lesser bids. You also have little defense so preemption is the way to go. If you want to make a case for 3s at MP to try and steal a board I can understand but 4s is still probably your best bet.

[kayin801]

Voted for preemptive raise for both, but intended for 4♠, not 3, for the reasons of the last poster and for common sense.

[ArcLight]

If pard opens, why bid 4♠?

What makes you think they are making 5♣?
Or 4♥? They may not have a 4-4 heart fit.
Will they try for 3NT?

Spades rule, let them bid at the 4 level and go down. You have high spots in the reds and 4 hearts. Maybe you get Xed at the 4 level.

<I just don't see this as an obvious 4♠, but I could be wrong>


In the case of an overcall, pard doesn't need to have as much as when he opens.
But he could still have a decent hand. Maybe 4S is a better bid than if pard opened. If you fear the opps making game.

[Fluffy]

letting the opponents play at the 4 level or whatever they pick with a large fit and distributional hand is a very very bad strategy arclight.

I am contemplating bidding 4♦ to help partner decide when they bid 5♣, but I think I would just blast 4♠ and let them guess.

[Fluffy]

raist, on Oct 12 2010, 02:56 PM, said:

btw this is sort of like an idiot check. i have a good idea what should be the right actions

lol, I can't wait for you to come and share with us why we are all so wrong

[pooltuna]

Fluffy, on Oct 13 2010, 10:46 AM, said:

raist, on Oct 12 2010, 02:56 PM, said:

btw this is sort of like an idiot check. i have a good idea what should be the right actions

lol, I can't wait for you to come and share with us why we are all so wrong

any action is nearly never wrong just anti percentage