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#1 User is offline   Nilz 

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Posted 2010-October-06, 11:07

Scoring: MP

(1)-P-(2)-A?
(3)-P-(P)-B?

LHO deals and opens. What would you bid at A and B?
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Posted 2010-October-06, 12:13

3H and pass.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-October-06, 12:20

3 and pass.
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Posted 2010-October-06, 12:55

If you bid 3H and then double the second time, what should the double mean? Very strong and balanced? Takeout with good hearts (and a better hand than this)? Or pure penalty?
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Posted 2010-October-06, 13:57

maximum and takeout shape, something like a 15-count 1633 maybe.
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Posted 2010-October-06, 21:33

Pass and pass, for me.

Kxx in spades is NOT what I want to have for a 3H bid. Nor do I like having a second king under the 1S opener. It was a nice 2H overcall, if it went 1S-p-1NT to me or something. But that was the limit.

Maybe at imps you can get away with 3H here since people dont try to whack one-trick sets much, I don't know. At MP I don't think it's a close decision at all.
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Posted 2010-October-06, 21:45

3 and pass.

Bidding looks normal to me at any form of scoring. But we are w/w at MP, passing and submitting to -110 or more has to be particularly bad.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2010-October-07, 02:46

3H and pass also. Not a close decision for either call.
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
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Posted 2010-October-08, 10:22

Thanks for the replies...
I chose 3H and double. Maybe I had a couple of spades in with my clubs, whatever. Let's call the second double 'aggressive' rather than 'insane'.
Anyway, my partner had
3
QT4
T9762
QT73
He misinterpreted my second double, and passed. 3S*+1. Not a great score. I assume based on the responses that partner should've bid 4H? That goes a couple off on best defence, so -170 in 3S is the best score we had available, so I should've passed.
But it seems like neither of us bid particularly well.
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Posted 2010-October-09, 04:41

Nilz, on Oct 8 2010, 11:22 AM, said:

Let's call the second double 'aggressive' rather than 'insane'.

I don't know what this sentence means, but I wouldn't call it either.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-October-09, 08:37

I would call the second double "wrong", not aggressive or insane.
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Posted 2010-October-09, 15:59

yes, partner should had pulled the double
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