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How do you get in the auction? Playing Polish Club Overcall

#1 User is offline   Grommet1 

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Posted 2010-October-01, 07:26

We play that 1NT shows a 4 card major and 5 card minor. What would you do with this hand after a 1 opening on your right?
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Posted 2010-October-01, 08:15

Well, you could fudge a bit and bid 1NT anyway. Your suit is certainly good enough for that. But partner will undoubtedly believe your major is hearts, not spades. That is obviously bad.

A Takeout Double is out as well for the same reasons.

Bidding 2 looks attractive. Sure, it's not a 5 card suit, but 4 card suits get no better. Plus, you have the strength and distribution to introduce the clubs at the three level. Unless a 2 overcall means something else in Polish Club?
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Posted 2010-October-01, 08:17

I don't get in the auction, I have to pass this time and see what comes back.
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Posted 2010-October-01, 13:12

What's wrong with PASS?
 
 
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Posted 2010-October-01, 13:14

Pass looks good to me even if 1NT would be natural.
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Posted 2010-October-04, 10:05

When I play the Canadian "Polish NT overcall", if I bid 1NT over 1S, I have "4 hearts and a longer minor". Partly, that's to ensure that it's ACBL GCC legal, but mostly, it makes no sense to play it any other way.

Pass.
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Posted 2010-October-04, 10:38

Polish bidding boxes don't have any pass cards in them.
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Posted 2010-October-04, 12:52

Yes, they do - that's how they show their *good* opening hands (13+ :-)
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Posted 2010-October-04, 21:25

Well, you cannot bid a Polish 1NT with this, because it shows Hearts over a S opening. You have 2 choices - pass and 1NT. I rate them in that order.
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Posted 2010-October-04, 21:50

I admit 2 is tempting. But I do pass.
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Posted 2010-October-07, 04:55

Hi,

1NT is out, 1NT over a 1M opening, showes 4 card in the OTHER major (*)
and a 5 card minor, and lots of players limit the call to 9-15HCP.

Your options are Pass, Pass, .... lets think, Pass.

There will be a 2nd round of bidding, and than you may be able to bid
2NT, a delayed 2NT can be 4-4 in the minors.
We play a direct 2NT at this vulnerability as 5-4, but most req. 5-5, and
it does not matter, you have 4-4 anyway.

With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: (*) Just read some comment, that seems to imply, that 1NT could show
4 cards in the bid major, assuming this makes sense, if they have shown 5
cards in the suit, which is highly unlikely (mildly speaking), do I really want to
introduce this 4 card suit?
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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