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While I slightly shaded my hand, where did GIB come off with jumping to 4!H??? Not only did GIB NOT have the max for his jump, he had no distribution for which to help out his hand...
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WHAT is GIB thinking
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Posted 2010-October-01, 00:04
"It's not enough to win the tricks that belong to you. Try also for some that belong to the opponents."
"Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to make them all yourself."
"One advantage of bad bidding is that you get practice at playing atrocious contracts."
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"Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to make them all yourself."
"One advantage of bad bidding is that you get practice at playing atrocious contracts."
-Alfred Sheinwold
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Posted 2010-October-01, 06:11
Making balancing doubles with GIB is really not recommended.
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Posted 2010-October-01, 06:40
I also don't think West's 2♣ bid fits the description given: "3-S; 11+ HCP; rebiddable C; 12-16 total points". What are the requirements for a reverse to 2♦ instead?
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Posted 2010-October-01, 09:26
Well I'm not GIB, but you promised 4+♥ and GIB has 6 to the K.
Combined 10+ should be "save" following the Law of Total Tricks.
You lost 6 tricks, 2 of them to ♥AQ. Unfortunately you only had the smallest (J) of the 3 missing honors and the 4th trump, that you did not have, might have been worth an extra trick.
So with the hand GIB expected from you, making 10 tricks is no that unlikely.
Combined 10+ should be "save" following the Law of Total Tricks.
You lost 6 tricks, 2 of them to ♥AQ. Unfortunately you only had the smallest (J) of the 3 missing honors and the 4th trump, that you did not have, might have been worth an extra trick.
So with the hand GIB expected from you, making 10 tricks is no that unlikely.
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Posted 2010-October-01, 13:18
hotShot, on Oct 1 2010, 10:26 AM, said:
Well I'm not GIB, but you promised 4+♥ and GIB has 6 to the K.
Combined 10+ should be "save" following the Law of Total Tricks.
You lost 6 tricks, 2 of them to ♥AQ. Unfortunately you only had the smallest (J) of the 3 missing honors and the 4th trump, that you did not have, might have been worth an extra trick.
So with the hand GIB expected from you, making 10 tricks is no that unlikely.
Combined 10+ should be "save" following the Law of Total Tricks.
You lost 6 tricks, 2 of them to ♥AQ. Unfortunately you only had the smallest (J) of the 3 missing honors and the 4th trump, that you did not have, might have been worth an extra trick.
So with the hand GIB expected from you, making 10 tricks is no that unlikely.
SOMEBODY needs to re-read Larry Cohen's book. You are WRONG for two reasons. The first one is that the "Law of Total Tricks" only really works if you have between 18-22 points. Only if I have a true hand with a maximum should GIB jump. Second, the LoTT breaks down after 9 trump- you need distribution or overwhelming HCP to compete to 4♥. GIB had NEITHER of those. Therefore, I still don't see why GIB had to jump.
"It's not enough to win the tricks that belong to you. Try also for some that belong to the opponents."
"Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to make them all yourself."
"One advantage of bad bidding is that you get practice at playing atrocious contracts."
-Alfred Sheinwold
"Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to make them all yourself."
"One advantage of bad bidding is that you get practice at playing atrocious contracts."
-Alfred Sheinwold
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Posted 2010-October-01, 19:23
Robots are not trained to think, we haven't gotten that far with technology quite right. Regarding GiB's 4♥ bid, the extended law of total tricks does have it just right. Sure it's a little off, but not as much as you might think (make those Ks into As and I may well be doing the same thing, if I hadn't acted already)
EDIT: ok rechecking, it is 1 trick out on the extended version too, but the LOTT is hardly perfect, it's just what the gib uses. And 1 trick isn't that bad a deviation.
EDIT: ok rechecking, it is 1 trick out on the extended version too, but the LOTT is hardly perfect, it's just what the gib uses. And 1 trick isn't that bad a deviation.
Wayne Somerville
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