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#1 User is offline   BudH 

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Posted 2010-September-25, 08:18

Top flight regional knockout event, all vulnerable

Scoring: IMP

Pass-Pass-1♥-Pass
3♣-Pass-4♥-Pass
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3C is natural and invitational.

1. Would you have opened this hand as dealer?


2. Would you bid 1S or an invitational 3C on your second call? (2C would be artificial - Drury)


3. Do you pass 4H in the given auction or do something else?
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Posted 2010-September-25, 08:56

I had a good laugh at this, thanks for posting.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-September-25, 09:02

i would not have passed in first seat.
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Posted 2010-September-25, 09:45

1. NO, Unless I had one of those gadgets
2. 3C is fine, unless this turns into a UI question, where partner alerted B)
3. See "2." above
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Posted 2010-September-25, 09:46

I don't think 3C is fine, we have 5 spades!
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-September-25, 10:01

Maybe "fine" was overstating. With the Drury condition, thus 2C not possible, responding 1S can work out as badly as 3C. I would choose the good 7-bagger over the weak five-bagger; the good news for me, is that I haven't been dragged kicking and screaming over to Drury in my brief 30 years of off-and-on play.
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Posted 2010-September-25, 10:10

Seeing a misfit (having 0-1 support for partner), I surely do not jump 3C.
Try 1S. Then 3C over 2H rebid.
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Posted 2010-September-25, 10:16

Yes, open 1C ... I have a gadget, but we probably end up in 4H anyway,
but partner is more informed when he makes the final decision:

1C - 1H
1S - 2D! ( 4th suit GF )
??
..2S! = no 3h, either 4-4 or sub-minimum 5-5 in the blacks
..3S jump = 5s/6c w/strength worthy of a reverse

After
2S! - 3H ( extra length )
3S* ( no 2h, the 5-5 min or sub-min hand ) - 4H

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*If Opener had the 4-4 hand, he would show it with any rebid other than 3S.

Edit: The 2S! rebid w/ a 4-4 in the blacks is a Max Hardy's suggestion when there is no stop in the 4th suit, and no support for partner's red suit: " The Principle of the Least Plausible Rebid " .
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Posted 2010-September-25, 13:25

Yes (1♣)

1S

Yes
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Posted 2010-September-25, 14:10

I like to play 3♣ here (by passed hand) as fit-jump.

Anyway, given that 3♣ shows invitational hand with clubs, I think 3♥ has to be forcing. Therefore 4♥ shows strong preference of playing in hearts (regardless of my support), I can pass with clear conscience.
 
 
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Posted 2010-September-25, 18:20

lol
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Posted 2010-September-25, 18:27

Pass in first hand unless playing a 2 suited opening. I guess those who think it is an obvious 1evel opening in a 2/1 system are quite used to going down.
Great game opposite Ax KQxxx KJxxx x - and partner WILL force to game of course!

1S over 1H; definitely NOT 3C.
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Posted 2010-September-25, 18:43

Obviously open 1♣.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2010-September-27, 17:58

Please, what is a wide boy?
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2010-September-27, 22:31

1) I think it's clear to open the bidding with 1♣. You have easy rebids and it's important to get in the first shot if it gets competitive.

2) 3♣ is a terrible bid, 1♠ seems obvious. Hopefully partner won't pass when we're cold for game.

3) Yes, I would pass. I didn't promise any hearts, so hopefully partner doesn't need any. 4♠ seems like a complete shot in the dark.
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Posted 2010-September-28, 00:48

655321, on Sep 27 2010, 11:58 PM, said:

Please, what is a wide boy?

wide boy
"Pass is your friend" - my brother in law - who likes to bid a lot.
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