[bftboy]

Scoring: MP

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P and I play strong jump shifts over 1m, and coasted to the grand after he opened 1♦. I was wondering, tho, what would be a good sequence for reaching it if you don't play strong jump shifts here? thx,

[Little Kid]

Edit: Silly mistake.

1♦-1♥
2♣-2♠*
3♦-3♥
3♠-4NT
5♥-5NT
6♦-7NT

* FSF

This post has been edited by Little Kid: 2010-September-29, 14:04

[rogerclee]

Little Kid, on Sep 29 2010, 12:52 PM, said:

Edit: Silly mistake.

1♦-1♥
2♣-2♠*
3♦-3♥
3♠-4NT
5♥-5NT
6♦-7NT

* FSF

South can just bid 7H after 5N (or 5S), and then north will convert to 7N obvously.

[Fluffy]

I'd rather bid 2♦ then 3♣ but auction is pretty much the same as littlekid described.

Also I would bid 4♥ and not 3♠ wich looks like a missfit bid.

[W Kovacs]

Fluffy, on Sep 29 2010, 03:52 PM, said:

I'd rather bid 2♦ then 3♣ but auction is pretty much the same as littlekid described.

Also I would bid 4♥ and not 3♠ which looks like a missfit bid.

I was going to ask if that 3♠ bid is a minisplinter agreeing hearts, because I'm not sure I would take it that way.

Anyway, I agree with Fluffy's implied auction, except that I would bid 1♦-2♣-3♦, not 1♦-2♦-3♣.

Out of curiousity, how did the Strong Jump auction go? I'm imagining:

1♦-2♥!
2♠!-3♥
4NT-5♦
5♠-7♥
7NT

That's how my partner and I would bid it, at least.

EDIT: fixed the bidding. Apparently I wasn't thinking clearly.

[bucky]

W Kovacs, on Sep 29 2010, 04:58 PM, said:

Out of curiousity, how did the Strong Jump auction go? I'm imagining:

1♦-2♥!
2♠!-3♥
4NT-5♠
5NT-7♥
7NT

That's how my partner and I would bid it, at least.

Out of curiosity, what does 2♠ show, what is 1♦-2♥-3♦ in your system, and why is partner responding 5♠ (assuming 4NT is rkc in hearts)?

[mike777]

bftboy, on Sep 29 2010, 02:10 PM, said:

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P and I play strong jump shifts over 1m, and coasted to the grand after he opened 1♦.  I was wondering, tho, what would be a good sequence for reaching it if you don't play strong jump shifts here?  thx, 

1d=1h
2c=2s!
3d=3h
4h=4s(rkc in h)
5d(2, deny qh)=5s(specific k ask)
6d(KD, deny kc and ks)=7nt

pretty easy,

[bucky]

The hand is tailor-made for blackwood. Any bidding sequence employing blackwood/rkc should easily reach grand on this one, it doesn't matter you play SJS or not. It will be more interesting to ask: how do you reach grand if you don't play blackwood?

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

basically it will be simple, if North starts the RKCB asking,
since he just needs to find 3 cover cards for his 3 loosers.
Since North is also the stronger one, and has a selfsufficent
suit, this will easily be happening.

1D - 1H
2C - 2S (FSF)
3D - 3H
4H - 4NT (...)
... - 7NT

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Zelandakh]

bucky, on Sep 30 2010, 05:27 AM, said:

It will be more interesting to ask: how do you reach grand if you don't play blackwood?

Well you did ask...

1D = 10-17, 4+ diamonds, unbal
1H = 10+ relay
1S = 10-13 any (upgrading is possible and merely skips ahead to 2C)
1N = GF relay
2C = 4+ clubs
2D = relay
2H = 5+ diamonds, 4 clubs
2S = relay
3C = 6 diamonds, 0-1 spades
3D = relay
4D = 1=2=6=4, 5 A/K controls (this would be 4C if you upgraded)
7N = can count 13 tricks unless hearts are 4-0

The hand is even more tailor-made for this approach than for Blackwood!

[W Kovacs]

bucky, on Sep 29 2010, 06:44 PM, said:

W Kovacs, on Sep 29 2010, 04:58 PM, said:

Out of curiousity, how did the Strong Jump auction go?  I'm imagining:

1♦-2♥!
2♠!-3♥
4NT-5♠
5NT-7♥
7NT

That's how my partner and I would bid it, at least.

Out of curiosity, what does 2♠ show, what is 1♦-2♥-3♦ in your system, and why is partner responding 5♠ (assuming 4NT is rkc in hearts)?

Crap. Typed faster than I thought again. I'll amend my previous post. I changed the 5NT king ask to the 5♠ queen ask in light of the ammended auction. The responses should still be valid.

And the 2S! bid is a relay, allowing responder to further describe his hand. We have no meaning for the 1♦-2♥-3♦. Partner's next bid will tell me exactly what he holds, so why should I ever not want that information?

[bftboy]

Our strong js auction went: 1♦, 2♥, 3♦, 3♠, 4♣, 4nt, etc. we play rkc here is always for the js suit.

The hand was played in a small and weakish club game and only 2 of 6 pairs bid the grand. Don't really know why they missed it, as weaker pairs will often barge into blackwood, which works perfectly on this hand. I guess I was wondering where the auction might have gotten off track, but who knows.

[bucky]

bftboy, on Sep 30 2010, 09:34 AM, said:

Our strong js auction went: 1♦, 2♥, 3♦, 3♠, 4♣, 4nt, etc. we play rkc here is always for the js suit.

The hand was played in a small and weakish club game and only 2 of 6 pairs bid the grand. Don't really know why they missed it, as weaker pairs will often barge into blackwood, which works perfectly on this hand. I guess I was wondering where the auction might have gotten off track, but who knows.

Was everyone at least in game?