[plaur]

Scoring: MP

1♥ - p - 1NT - X
2♦ - ?

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Matchpoints, we are vul, they are not. 1NT was 6-9.
Partner and I had a disagreement about this hand. Hope to get some answers we can learn from!
Whats the thought process good players use to decide on the bid here?

[wank]

well, you don't need to bid now RHO's bid in front of you so you shouldn't bid with absolute pony.

however, you have a 5th spade and a half decent suit so i wouldn't call this a pony hand. i'd volunteer 2S

[rogerclee]

You have a bad hand, just pass. You are almost definitely getting another chance anyway.

[655321]

Yes pass because we have nothing. We are r/w too.

Also, LHO bid a limited 1NT, RHO made a minimum rebid and we have a 3 count, there has to be a fair chance partner has a strong hand. If we bid 2♠ now we are likely to be playing 4♠ even when it has no play.

[cloa513]

Partner should not go crazy after all you passed over 1H. 2♠ Opponents have relatively bad fit so risk of a bad break is higher and partner still doubled.

[NickRW]

Not so sure I want to pass at MP. Sure some, many partners are going to get excited if we bid 2♠ - but should they? Opps have around half the deck - so p should know that we've got about 20 minus whatever he can see. In that light perhaps I don't have such a bad hand in context.

Nor am I that sure I am going to get another chance. Responder may be about to pass with 4 diamonds and p might be be about shrug, "I've bid my hand once, why stick my neck out twice".

[TylerE]

Pass at these colors. The red suit shortnesses are on top of me, which could get ugly. Txx/Jxx in opponents suits are terrible holdings. Would bid 2♠ if the colors were reversed, or all white, or if I was, say, 5-2-2-4... or 5-1-3-4.

[neilkaz]

TylerE, on Sep 22 2010, 08:23 PM, said:

Pass at these colors. The red suit shortnesses are on top of me, which could get ugly. Txx/Jxx in opponents suits are terrible holdings. Would bid 2♠ if the colors were reversed, or all white, or if I was, say, 5-2-2-4... or 5-1-3-4.

I agree completely with your common sense here at these colors and -200 in 2♠ or in a higher contract if PD thinks we actually have something will be a near zero.

This is a very easy pass at these colors with this junk. If PD x's again, we can then bid ♠ if passed around to us or if still at the 2 level.

Voluntarily bidding when this weak is a good way to have 3 opps rather than 2 since PD will expect more.

[ggwhiz]

I agree with all of the above.

Reverse the colours and I'm in and I would be in R/W if I had a singleton somewhere but knowing it's risky business.

[bucky]

It almost doesn't cost anything to pass here. You are not unhappy if 2♦ gets passed out (partner should have 3+ diamonds for the double). More likely LHO will bid 2♥, and when that is passed to you, you can then balance with 2♠.

[Zelandakh]

This situation depends on your agreements. The 'standard' call would probably be pass. But it is quite possible to play 2S here as promising very little in the way of strength. If I have that arrangement then I prefer to get 2S off my chest now; if not then I'll Pass and back in later in case partner gets over-excited.

[mike777]

this situation depends on what pass means...if junk ok....I pass;.

[Phil]

If I could bid 2♠ and bar partner from bidding on with a medium hand, I would do so.

Its quite likely LHO will bid 2♥ and now that I have boxed my hand 2♠ is perfect. If LHO does more, I'll be glad I passed.

[pooltuna]

I would call 2♠ as the opps will probably end up in 3♥ if I pass and then try 2♠. Bidding now will create the most difficulty for them. This partially assumes that 1NT was forcing and they play going thru F1NT shows a crappy raise.

[kayin801]

1♠.

Wait, I can't do that?

[Free]

Phil, on Sep 23 2010, 06:34 AM, said:

If I could bid 2♠ and bar partner from bidding on with a medium hand, I would do so.

Its quite likely LHO will bid 2♥ and now that I have boxed my hand 2♠ is perfect. If LHO does more, I'll be glad I passed.

Nicely said. Agree with passing for now.

[Rodney26]

TylerE, on Sep 22 2010, 08:23 PM, said:

Pass at these colors. The red suit shortnesses are on top of me, which could get ugly. Txx/Jxx in opponents suits are terrible holdings. Would bid 2♠ if the colors were reversed, or all white, or if I was, say, 5-2-2-4... or 5-1-3-4.

Agree with all of this -- especially the red suit holdings. I'd add that partner's honors are not likely to be in a working position with the stronger hand on his left. The opps also haven't found a fit yet. You're likely going to be on lead so you don't have to worry about partner's club lead potentially blowing a trick.

Also agree with Phil's points.