[Flameous]

1♦ (2♠) to you

♠Jxx
♥Jx
♦JTxxx
♣Kxx

1♦ was better minor. Is 3♦ obvious? And if you pass, what do you do after partner reopens with a double?

[jdonn]

Pass and if he doubles I bid 3♦.

[neilkaz]

jdonn, on Sep 23 2010, 05:17 PM, said:

Pass and if he doubles I bid 3♦.

Yes, I do the same and think that a direct 3♦ shows more and may cause PD to go overboard.

[655321]

It wouldn't hurt to know the vulnerability and form of scoring, but anyway I probably bid 3♦. I would like to have a bit more, but I do have 5 card support, and if the opponents raise spades I would feel much happier having shown my support.

[Phil]

Not enough for 3♦ initially, even with 5.

[andy_h]

I'd pass.

[ggwhiz]

I pass too and bid 3♦ over a re-opening double. The only way (usually) that pard doesn't re-open with a double is if they also have 3 spades and some kind of minimum.

That favours defence on top of pard getting excited with extras.

[Free]

Depends a lot on the vulnerability for me. Sometimes it's a 3♦ call, but this is not main stream apparently.

[Codo]

3 ♦

With majors, there are many players, who overbid one step if necessary to show their support. With minors it is much less acctractive (you have less to gain)- but I would still do it. Of course it helps if you have several ways to show your degree of support and how good your hand is.

[P_Marlowe]

Without special agreements, you have to pass, ask yourself, what you would
bid with 9-11HCP and a diamond fit.
There are ways to differentiate between various strengths, which would allow
you to raise diamonds immediatly, but this is certainly not B/I stuff.

A 3D diamond raise does not promise inv. strength, but it showes more than
a bare min. for single raise, and your 6HCP consist of one 1HCP in their suit,
you happen to have lots of jacks, which are overvalue anyway, and you have
a bal. shape.

If p reopens with a double, show the fit, it usually does not pay to go for blood,
if we have a fit.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[spotlight7]

Hi:

I use Good/Bad 2NT to show vaues when I bid directly

and I show shape(without solid values) when I use 2NT*.

1D-(2S)-3D shows invitational values while 1D-(2S)-2NT-3C*-3D is this hand.

Regards,
Robert

[Flameous]

When this came up in the table, 3♦ was bid, 1♦ opener held a monster with 5♦ and after RKC they stopped in 5♦ as they should.

I just wondered that after pass and double, you'd bid 3♦ with xxx xxx xxxx xxx so it seems 3♦ there seems sort of underbid. There is 2NT available but I'd assume scrambling rather than leb.

Every problem can't be solved but I just wanted some take on this. With Q more I guess everybody would be bidding?

[P_Marlowe]

Flameous, on Sep 24 2010, 06:54 AM, said:

When this came up in the table, 3♦ was bid, 1♦ opener held a monster with 5♦ and after RKC they stopped in 5♦ as they should.

I just wondered that after pass and double, you'd bid 3♦ with xxx xxx xxxx xxx so it seems 3♦ there seems sort of underbid. There is 2NT available but I'd assume scrambling rather than leb.

Every problem can't be solved but I just wanted some take on this. With Q more I guess everybody would be bidding?

A common meaning of 2NT in this seq. is Lebensohl Style.

With an add. Queen, bidding would be mainstream.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[gwnn]

what the drunk kitten said (disagree with the fat cat and the stoned cat)

but I wouldn't call it obvious.