[Bbradley62]

Scoring: MP

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[Gerben42]

The most important question in an indi is not what the textbook bid is but who is at the table. Unless I think that partner is a reasonable player, I will bid 1NT.

[pooltuna]

Bbradley62, on Sep 23 2010, 10:56 AM, said:

Scoring: MP

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just the 4 card major I need... to play opposite 9874 of course IMO this is an unbiddable one

[hrothgar]

Gerben42, on Sep 23 2010, 06:59 PM, said:

The most important question in an indi is not what the textbook bid is but who is at the table. Unless I think that partner is a reasonable player, I will bid 1NT.

The real danger with this approach is that there is a significant degree of overlap between

1. The set of people that you really don't want to declare NT
2. The set of people who have no idea what to rebid after 1♣ - 1NT

[gwnn]

1n is fine

[whereagles]

usually 1♥, unless pard is incompetent ahah

[Gerben42]

Quote

The real danger with this approach is that there is a significant degree of overlap between

1. The set of people that you really don't want to declare NT
2. The set of people who have no idea what to rebid after 1♣ - 1NT

Okay at this point I want to tell a story: You have

♠Qxxx
♥Qxxx
♦Qxx
♣Ax

Not bad, and @ German indi championships, white vs red with elderly lady against two top players partner opens 1♣. RHO doubles and you bid 1N. Partner shocks you with 2♠ and RHO bids 3♦. What do you do?

[Bbradley62]

Gerben42, on Sep 23 2010, 04:01 PM, said:

Not bad, and @ German indi championships, white vs red with elderly lady against two top players partner opens 1♣. RHO doubles and you bid 1N. Partner shocks you with 2♠ and RHO bids 3♦. What do you do?

I presume HCP are 15-15-10-0 and bid 4♠.

[neilkaz]

Lets see... 9 HCP, 4333 that is often poor for suit contracts and 4 weak trumps.

I slightly prefer 1NT opposite a pard who almost never raises with 3 cards and clearly 1NT if pard often raises with 3 cards.

[655321]

1♥

Gerben42, on Sep 23 2010, 10:59 AM, said:

The most important question in an indi is not what the textbook bid is but who is at the table.

OP always posts hands bid by GIB.

[hrothgar]

Bbradley62, on Sep 24 2010, 01:30 AM, said:

Gerben42, on Sep 23 2010, 04:01 PM, said:

Not bad, and @ German indi championships, white vs red with elderly lady against two top players partner opens 1♣. RHO doubles and you bid 1N. Partner shocks you with 2♠ and RHO bids 3♦. What do you do?

I presume HCP are 15-15-10-0 and bid 4♠.

I presume that partner has a 4=3=2=4 hand and 12 HCP and is patterning out.

I pass

[gszeszycki]

I would choose 1d for the following reasons

1. There is a reasonable minority of hands where opener has to raise to 2h with 3 card support and this hand would hate that.

2. I would avoid 1n because if p can bid 1h I would much prefer to be in the 44 heart fit (yes even 2345 opposite 6789).

3. I have nothing in my hand that need protection from the opening lead. My 1d bid
greatly increases the probability that opener (and the stronger hand) will become declarer.

4. I do not consider it to be a huge distortion to show a 4 card dia suit with 3 decent ones since we normally avoid the minors like a plague anyway.

Let the fireworks begin:)

[Bbradley62]

655321, on Sep 23 2010, 07:34 PM, said:

1♥

Gerben42, on Sep 23 2010, 10:59 AM, said:

The most important question in an indi is not what the textbook bid is but who is at the table.

OP always posts hands bid by GIB.

Not always, and not in this case. I held this hand in an individual event with three unknown (to me) players at the table. I don't know what possessed me to bid 1NT; on hands like this I religiously bid my 4card major. And, of course, I got my ears pinned back.

[aguahombre]

Bbradley62, on Sep 23 2010, 07:24 PM, said:

655321, on Sep 23 2010, 07:34 PM, said:

1♥

Gerben42, on Sep 23 2010, 10:59 AM, said:

The most important question in an indi is not what the textbook bid is but who is at the table.

OP always posts hands bid by GIB.

Not always, and not in this case. I held this hand in an individual event with three unknown (to me) players at the table. I don't know what possessed me to bid 1NT; on hands like this I religiously bid my 4card major. And, of course, I got my ears pinned back.

looking for vindication, or just fessing up?

[Bbradley62]

aguahombre, on Sep 23 2010, 09:44 PM, said:

looking for vindication, or just fessing up?

trying to determine whether I did something wrong or whether it was a normal play...

[andy_h]

1NT.

[aguahombre]

I take back whatever I said about people having a better scheme of responses to 1C than to 1D. I forgot about the masterminds

[the hog]

1H for me.

[aguahombre]

The_Hog, on Sep 23 2010, 09:28 PM, said:

1H for me.

so rarely we agree

[P_Marlowe]

1H.

If you have no clue, go with standard, unless you are certain,
that the alternative is clearly better.

After 1H, you have clear understanding, how the auction will
develop, if you bid something undiscussed, strange, well, than
be not suprised, if the auction develops in an surprising way.

With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: If you are partnered with GIB, than 1H is clearly obvious, simply
because GIB is using simulations tto determine his next bid.
And 1NT tells him, no 4H, no 4S, and I would not be suprised, if he
will also assume, that you have no 4 diamonds, i.e. he will give you at
least 4clubs.
If you feed the simulation with wrong paramters, than the result will
be what ever.