The 1st World Parliament Elections
#1
Posted 2010-August-27, 06:49
#2
Posted 2010-August-27, 06:55
And conservatives, does that mean Chinese conservatives, Iranian conservatives, German conservatives, or all of them?
#4
Posted 2010-August-27, 07:25
Socially, I am very much a product of the East Coast liberal establishment.
My academic background is in economics, which means I'm very much in favor of free markets. I'm a classical liberal - in the European sense - when it comes to matters like free trade. At the same time, I was educated back in the weird old days when people spent a lot of time focusing on market imperfections. I have a pretty healthy appreciation for the limits to the current free market ideology.
There are elements of the platforms from most of the political parties that I very much approve of. For example, I have very little use for Libertarians, but I think that they are dead right when it comes to legalizing drugs.
I despise the Militia types. At the same time, I think that there is very real merit to splitting some big ass piece of Texas off from the rest of the United States and deporting all the nut bags to whatever exciting new Christofascit anarchistic utopia emerges from the ruins. <<Road Warriors for Jesus???>>
For me, the really big issue is that there are some many areas where I really despise all the existing parties.
The Republicans have gone genuinely insane
The Democrats are deplorable on trade policy
The Greens here in the US are just plain silly and over in Europe they seem to obsess over minutea like GMO.
I suppose that I am closest to a European style Social Democrat...
I often find that the British Labor party has some interesting things to say.
#5
Posted 2010-August-27, 07:34
helene_t, on Aug 27 2010, 07:55 AM, said:
It would mean a international group of people who would fight for the limitation of the influence of this World Goverment and Parliament on the national affairs... LePen's or Vlaamse Block people for ex..
#6
Posted 2010-August-27, 07:44
George Carlin
#7
Posted 2010-August-27, 07:46
Aberlour10, on Aug 27 2010, 04:34 PM, said:
helene_t, on Aug 27 2010, 07:55 AM, said:
It would mean a international group of people who would fight for the limitation of the influence of this World Goverment and Parliament on the national affairs... LePen's or Vlaamse Block people for ex..
You seem to be using the word "Nationalists" to describe what I think of as "Euro-skeptics".
If this is the case then you really need to rethink your examples. When I think of LePen, I think "Hatred of the Other". Same with the Block Party.
I suspect that groups like the Scottish National Party or the Front Nacional de Catalunya would be more palatable examples.
#8
Posted 2010-August-27, 07:46
"gwnn" said:
hanp does not always mean literally what he writes.
#9
Posted 2010-August-27, 11:00
-- Bertrand Russell
#10
Posted 2010-August-27, 11:24
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Hmm I would still never vote for a communist party, no matter how great a person is leading it.
Richard, want to start a political party of the sensible people?
#11
Posted 2010-August-27, 11:31
Gerben42, on Aug 27 2010, 08:24 PM, said:
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Groucho Marx
#12
Posted 2010-August-27, 11:59
gwnn, on Aug 27 2010, 08:44 AM, said:
I think...it belongs to the group "Conservative", leading center-right parties in Europe like...
CDU in Germany, UMP in France, AP in Spain etc etc...
#13
Posted 2010-August-27, 16:21
Aberlour10, on Aug 27 2010, 12:59 PM, said:
gwnn, on Aug 27 2010, 08:44 AM, said:
I think...it belongs to the group "Conservative", leading center-right parties in Europe like...
CDU in Germany, UMP in France, AP in Spain etc etc...
BTW what is the difference in politics, policies right vs left in European parties?
In the UsA the divide seems more apparent when you talk abortion than any other issue...one side of that issue wants to outlaw or restrict it the other side wants no restrictions or almost none and the govt to pay for it. ABortion politics affects so many other issues..see judges...supreme court......stem cell research....health care......govt paid benefits...etc....
#14
Posted 2010-August-27, 16:43
Edit: As I am at this point in my life totally convinced that an individual's vote is absolutely meaningless I may as well make what I can for it.
#15
Posted 2010-August-27, 16:45
mike777, on Aug 28 2010, 01:21 AM, said:
As usual, Mike is off in his own delusional little world.
Virtually every poll in the US shows that there is a fairly broad middle ground on the topic of abortion. There are definitely polar extremes (I happen to sit at one of them).
However, I am quite aware that the extremists position on either side is hardly representative. (It just makes for better sound bites)
#16
Posted 2010-August-28, 05:21
Gerben42, on Aug 27 2010, 05:24 PM, said:
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Hmm I would still never vote for a communist party, no matter how great a person is leading it.
I think you take comunist differently than me, I think the reason is the comunist party in Spain is a bit "light".
But anyway, if I was to pick between Bush or say ... Lenin? Fidel? Mao? not sure wich comunist greatest leader was there, but I think I'd still pick comunists
#17
Posted 2010-August-28, 05:42
Aberlour10, on Aug 28 2010, 01:49 AM, said:
I really hope I will be able to go live on the moon before this happens.
#18
Posted 2010-August-28, 06:22
nigel_k, on Aug 28 2010, 06:42 AM, said:
Aberlour10, on Aug 28 2010, 01:49 AM, said:
I really hope I will be able to go live on the moon before this happens.
If this very hypothetical situation would ever be reality..tja we would not need global defence department nor xxx national defence departments, what would we do with all these saved money, a trillion a year? I think we could easliy send you a lot of it to the Moon or elsewhere
#19
Posted 2010-August-28, 10:09
nigel_k, on Aug 28 2010, 11:42 AM, said:
Aberlour10, on Aug 28 2010, 01:49 AM, said:
I really hope I will be able to go live on the moon before this happens.
I much appreciate the sentiment. But living on a moon you jolly well have to pay your oxygen tax - so it aint utopia up there either! Plus the only folks likely to colonise the Moon or Mars are commercial operations - with not much law enforcement in sight - so it could be quite an ugly place.
Nick
#20
Posted 2010-September-03, 07:05
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."

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