[Antoine Fourrière]

Are strong jump shifts still useful in today's forcing style?
I suspect playing a direct jump to 3♣ as natural and forcing and 2♣ followed by 3♣ as nonforcing (or a direct jump to 3♣ as invitational and 2♣ followed by 3♣ as natural and forcing) is still a good idea, although there is no need to do so with diamonds, since responder can always rebid 3♣ as a retransfer and 3♦ as a fourth suit.
But should a 3♥ rebid by opener over 2♣ be natural, since 2♥ would be forcing?
I think it should be a splinter, and 3♣ show a flatter hand.
Anyway, I would answer a void-showing 4♥ over 1♠.

[joker_gib]

The_Hog, on Aug 12 2004, 06:35 AM, said:

I'll get to 6S. Those who claim they will get to 6C are liars.

I totally agree !!

Nearly impossible to play 6♣ imo !

[hrothgar]

Playing MOSCITO, I would HOPE to produce the following auction

1C - 1D (1C = Strong, art forcing, 1D = Strong, art forcing)
1H - 2C (1H = Relay, 2C = SS with Clubs or Clubs + Spades)
2D - 2S (2D = Relay, 2S = Clubs + Spades, High Shortage)
2N - 3N (2N = Relay, 3N = 4=0=3=6 shape)
4C - 4S (4C = Slam Point Ask, 4S = 7 slam points)
4N - 5D (4N = Denial Cue, 5D = 1 or 2 controls in Clubs, 0 or 3 in Spades)
5H - 6D (5H = Denial Cue, 6D = 2nd Club control, 2 Diamond Controls, no Club Jack)

Regretfully we're one step too high, and would either play 6S or 6N...

[EricK]

inquiry, on Aug 12 2004, 12:38 PM, said:

or even the superior 6NT by north on this hand, and they wouldn't like being called liars either.

If East holds up the ♣A, does 6NT make?

Eric

[inquiry]

EricK, on Aug 12 2004, 11:41 AM, said:

inquiry, on Aug 12 2004, 12:38 PM, said:

or even the superior 6NT by north on this hand, and they wouldn't like being called liars either.

If East holds up the ♣A, does 6NT make?

Eric

YEs....


Since his partner has the !SQ...

Holding up the club ace, it still makes.

Ben

[Free]

6NT is made if you strip East's ♠ and ♥. Then East can try what he wants, he has to play a minor to North, who can make all his ♣s

[EricK]

inquiry, on Aug 12 2004, 03:57 PM, said:

EricK, on Aug 12 2004, 11:41 AM, said:

inquiry, on Aug 12 2004, 12:38 PM, said:

or even the superior 6NT by north on this hand, and they wouldn't like being called liars either.

If East holds up the ♣A, does 6NT make?

Eric

YEs....


Since his partner has the !SQ...

Holding up the club ace, it still makes.

Ben

Yes, you're right.

But is 6NT the better contract? My brain stopped working at about 3 o'clock this afternoon, and I can't work out which has a greater chance of success.

Eric

[inquiry]

6NT avoids risk of a ruff, but runs a foul of a hold up in clubs on some distributions. I can't imagine south with void in diamonds and north with a void in hearts and with two nine card suit fits people will get to six notrump at imps (at mp, someone might try it)..... of course, one pair bid 6NT in the real world... now that is a contract I wuold say that anyone who tells you they would bid to 6NT would be "liars"... excpet one did it... lol

Ben

[the hog]

"And ron, as a six club bidder, I don't particularily like being called a liar."

It was a joke, Ben. Don't be so touchy.

[inquiry]

The_Hog, on Aug 12 2004, 06:37 PM, said:

"And ron, as a six club bidder, I don't particularily like being called a liar."

It was a joke, Ben. Don't be so touchy.

Er... ron, did you see this?

http://bridgebase.lunarpages.com/~bridge2/...indpost&p=32276

[Free]

Wow, we have lots of funny guys around here I have some good ones, but I'll spare them until there's an off-topic forum (never)