[benlessard]

1D is always 4D unbalanced 11-23, 0445,4045,2245,3145,1345,4441,1444,4144 are the hands with only 4D

1D ???

1H relay (at least 9pts+ or at least 3H)
1S 5S but could be 4 (4216,4225 {6-11})
1NT 6C {6-8} or GF
2C D raise {7-9}
2D D raise {4-6}
2M weak
2Nt mixed raise 5 trumps {6-9}
3D preempt

3C/3H/3S Void
**3Nt both M 6-6 weakish
**4C 6C+6M
4D preempt
4M preempt


1D 1H ???

1S clubs (may have 4H)
1Nt 6D any strenght /////////OR//////// 5D+4H 12-14
2C D+S 12-14 or GF may have 4H
2D D+S 15-17
2H D+H 15-17 (may have 4S)
2S 2452 GF
2NT 3451 GF
3C 1453 GF
3D ?46? GF
3H D+H S void
3S D+H C void


1D 1H 1S (D+C may have 4H)

1NT ask for 4H/5C
2C/2D/2H to play less than 10
**2S Long H with unknown Void
**2NT C fit S void
**3C C fit H void
**3D club fit D void


1D 1H 1S 1NT (ask for 4H/5C)

2C denies 4H show5C 11-17
2D denies 4H and denies 5C (so show 5D) 11-17
2H show 4H 11-17


1D 1H 1S 1NT 2C

2D/2H/2NT/3C INV Nat 9-11
2S GF relay
3D+ GF nat


1D 1H 1S 1NT 2C 2S (GF)

2Nt 2245
3C 3145
3D 1345
3H ??55
3S S void 0355,0265,0256
3Nt H Void 3055,2065,2056




1D 1H 1S 1NT 2D

pass opener has at least 5D
2H/2NT/3C/3D INV
2S GF relay


1D 1H 1S 1NT 2D 2S (GF)

2Nt 2254
3C 3154
3D 1354
3H ??64
3S S void 0364,0274
3Nt H Void 3064,2074



1D 1H 1S 1NT 2H (showing 4H 11-17)

2S GF
------ 2NT 1444
-------3C 0445
-------3D 0454

2Nt/3C/3D/3H = INV


1D 1H 1Nt ???

2C relay at least inv values
2D to play could be a stiff
2H to play (show 6H 6-8 since partner didnt promise any H)
2S Long H with unknown Void
2NT C fit S void
3C C fit H void
3D club fit D void




1D 1H 1Nt 2C ???

2D Min with 6D
2H min with 5D+4H
2S 6D bal {15-22} pts
2NT 6D + Stiff S {15-22}
3C 6D + stiff H {15-22}
3D 6D + stiff C {15-22}
3H 6D + void S {15-22}
3S 6D + void H {15-22}
3Nt 6D + void C {15-22}


1D 1H 1Nt 2D ???

2H min with 5D+4H
2S 6D bal {18-22} pts
2NT 6D + Stiff S {18-22}
3C 6D + stiff H {18-22}
3D 6D + stiff C {18-22}
3H void S {18-22}
3S void H {18-22}
3Nt void C {18-22}


1D 1H 2C (D+S 12-14 or GF)

2D/2H/2S to play
2Nt GF relay
3C D void S fit
3D C void S fit
3H H suit GF

1D 1H 2D (D+S 15-17)

pass/2H/2S To play
2Nt GF relay
3C D void S fit
3D C void S fit
3H H suit GF



After
1D 1H 1S showing D+C

responder will bid 1NT...

CASE 1 almost all GF hands (you will bid 2S GF relay afterward)

CASE 2 all INV hands (you will bid the inv suit at the cheapest denomination)

CASE 3 weak hands with 33,44,22,23 in the minors you will pass partner 2m/2H responses
(if partner got 4H/5C you will play 2H/2C otherwise you will play 2D UNLESS hes {18-22}

Where responder should not bid 1NT
When he knows wich partscore is best. 6-9 pts
GF with voids

[benlessard]

A
A52
KQJ643
A74


J752
KQ
AT752
92


north deal

1D---1H
1Nt (6D)----2C (at least inv)
2S 6D stiff S 2Nt keyc
3C (14) etc.. (if north is 1273 i wont be able to stop before 7)


South deal
1D----1H
2C (D+S 12-14 or GF) ------2Nt GF
3C 4252----------3D keyc
3H (1)------------4D (K of H)
4S (Y but no K of C)----5C QH ?
5H (yes but no Q of C)----- 7D

[benlessard]

AJ9
A7xxx
AJx
QJ


KTx
Q
KQ9xxx
ATx


sotuh deal

1D---1H
1NT---2C
2D (min)----2S GF
3D (stiff H)----3H keyc
4H (2+q+K of S no K of C)------6D (the Q of S inst enough)

switch the K of S into the K of clubs

Tx
Q
KQ9xxx
AKTx



1D----1H
1S (showing clubs)-----------1NT
2d (denies 4H and 5C so guarrantee 5D)------2S (GF)
3H (??64)---------3S keyc
4S (2+Q+KC+no KofS so 2164 is known)-----5C (extras ?)
5D (no) ----------------6Nt

switched the rounded

Tx
AKTx
KQ9xxx
x

1D-----1H
1Nt-----2C
2H (min 5D+4H)---------2S GF
3H (?46?)--------3S etc



AKTx
Tx
KQ9xxx
x


D+S is the worse holding but the strenght is limited to 12-14 or 18-22

1D-----1H
2C----2NT
3S (4?6?) ------4C D keyc

[benlessard]

QJ
A6
AKQ74
9875


A9
KQ82
J53
AKJ4


1D----1H
1S----1Nt (ask for 4H/5C)
2D (5D+4C or 6D+4C)---------2S GF
2Nt 2254---------here youll be able to spot that 6d is better than 6C i wont get to 6Nt however

(because of the J of S 6NT by south is good too)

[zenko]

so how do you respond on 1D with say 6-8 points , 5 clubs, 2 diamonds and 3-3 majors?

[benlessard]

1H when weak show at least 3 cards. partner will repeat his D or show a 2 suiter and you will play 2D in 5-2 fit or play in 2H in 4-3 fit if opener has 4H.

The worse hand is a weak 3235, but you can bid 1Nt (club transfer) followed by 2D (show 6C+3D weak ) or you can raise immediatly (2C or 2D)

Its obvious to me that if you believe in relay bidding, 1H should be a relay, its the continuation that are not obvious. Its also obvious to me that you want most of opener rebid to be forcing so that he can show a 2nd suit and make a final shape bid not too high at the 3 level instead of making a stupid jump shift at the 3 level, after several setup i became convinced that 1D---1H----1S should show clubs because it allow you to open 1D with 4D and 5C and to deal better with 4441,4144,1444 it also allow you to inv and often stop at 2D wich is often way better than 2Nt, + it allow you to play better partscore when 22 or 33 or 23 in the minors.

The cost of all this is that you cant stop in 1Nt anymore (but its still better than reg 1Nt forcing since opener cannot be 5332), opener cannot make direct 3 card H raise and that if the 1D opener is the dealer than lho might preempt after your 1H response.

Its not great for MP since you often play in 2m instead of 1Nt or 2M but for slam no other setup come close imo.

The type of slams that we are missing are the stiff K facing aqJ and when responder has the side suit AKxxxx or AQxxxx in a weakish hand where opener Hx and solid trumps become gold.

[zenko]

seem like a good structure, but for us playing in ACBL land unfortunately it is out of bounds, since ambiguous 1H answer on 1D opening is "superchart" convention and disallowed except on Spingolds and such events.

Interestingly enough ambiguous 1D response on non-strong 1C opening is allowed, as well as ambiguous 1S response on 1H opening, but 1H response on 1D opening has to show hearts (or at least a suit, not sure about that)

[PrecisionL]

Actually, 1♠ response to 1♥ opening has to be natural in ACBL GCC events. However, a 1♥ response to a general purpose 1♦ can occasionally be a 3-cd suit. In fact we play it that way if weak, otherwise 4+♥s even if longer ♠s.

The Kaplan Inversion (1♠ response with 0-3♠s) is ACBL Mid-chart.

[zenko]

Sorry I did not clarify, I was talking about mid-chart events which are widespread enough to make it worth a trouble (in my neck of woods even the unit game is mid-chart). While on that subject somebody told me recently that Kaplan inversion is now actually GCC, in which case 1H-1S can be played as 0+ spades in almost all events

[zenko]

PrecisionL, on Aug 9 2010, 01:38 PM, said:

Actually, 1♠ response to 1♥ opening has to be natural in ACBL GCC events. However, a 1♥ response to a general purpose 1♦ can occasionally be a 3-cd suit. In fact we play it that way if weak, otherwise 4+♥s even if longer ♠s.

The Kaplan Inversion (1♠ response with 0-3♠s) is ACBL Mid-chart.

BTW I have hard time finding on GCC where exactly says that 1d-1h(3+hearts) is allowed, it does not really fit in any of 10 itemized examples and it says on the top:
Unless specifically allowed, methods are disallowed. Is there any other document pertaining to that which if needed I can show to a director?


http://web2.acbl.org...nvchart2005.pdf