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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2010-August-03, 06:56

AQxx
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AKQxxx
x

LHO starts the bidding at all vulnerable Teams.

1♦-2NT-3♠-x
4♠-5♣-p-?
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Posted 2010-August-03, 07:02

I would pass, 7-1 fits probably play better than 5-2 fits.
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Posted 2010-August-03, 07:06

6♦.
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Posted 2010-August-03, 07:11

Agree with Arend.
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Posted 2010-August-03, 07:17

TylerE, on Aug 3 2010, 08:06 AM, said:

6♦.

One of us is misreading the auction. In my auction, my partner showed lots of hearts and more clubs, and LHO showed a (probably unbalanced) 1♦ opening.
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Posted 2010-August-03, 07:22

Ugh, yea, I misread the opening as 1♠...., hrrm, yea, have to pass then I guess.
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Posted 2010-August-03, 07:33

Did I really double 3S? What is that? Why did LHO bid 4S over it lol, I woulda thought it was penalty...and looking at my hand it also seems like I meant it as penalty.

Oops just read the thread title. I don't know what's going on but passing is really obvious.
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Posted 2010-August-03, 08:06

Assuming pard heard me double 3S, I would not only pass but expect to make it (or perhaps it's time for a new partner.)

a 7-5 such as x Kxxxx void KQJTxxx seems the very least pard could have. Of course need both A of H and K of S onside to make. Wish I had bid 5C myself to get the spade lead AWAY from the K, as RHO must be on a yarborough!
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Posted 2010-August-03, 08:51

JLOGIC, on Aug 3 2010, 08:33 AM, said:

Did I really double 3S? What is that? Why did LHO bid 4S over it lol, I woulda thought it was penalty...and looking at my hand it also seems like I meant it as penalty.

Oops just read the thread title. I don't know what's going on but passing is really obvious.

WHAT!!! no raise to 6♣? :D :)
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Posted 2010-August-03, 08:54

move along, nothing to see

yes, apparently only 25% of all people involved in this hand understood this as a penalty double

partner had 6 hearts and 5 clubs, other table was 3NT=, we were 5♣-4. I don't remember but I think 5♥ was also going down, but maybe only 1. Not nice of me, perhaps, to post this hand, in fact I don't remember what my underlying reason was.
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Posted 2010-August-03, 12:27

gwnn, on Aug 3 2010, 02:54 PM, said:

in fact I don't remember what my underlying reason was.

alcohol? drugs?
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Posted 2010-August-03, 19:41

Fluffy, on Aug 3 2010, 01:27 PM, said:

gwnn, on Aug 3 2010, 02:54 PM, said:

in fact I don't remember what my underlying reason was.

alcohol? drugs?

seeking new partners? opps?
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Posted 2010-August-03, 23:20

I understand the double of 3S. It is a non-forcing bid in "U" vs "U". The double serves as a warning to partner who shouldn't be bidding again not to bid again, unless he has a split-range 2NT agreement and he had a hand too strong to overcall. Of course this would have required an opening Psyche.

Title is appropriate --2NT bidder needs rehab.
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