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Posted 2004-August-05, 17:09

KQJ
KQ76543
AJ10
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A10987
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Qx
KQ10975


I was playing 4sp today with those hands scoring was total point like.
west lead a trump, What is the best line ?
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Posted 2004-August-05, 18:12

win in hand, lead 9 only trumping if covered, tossing heart otherwise... win trump return, trump heart, lead 10 throwing heart or trumping if covered... if it loses, win the return, draw trumps, run clubs, finesse a diamond (save a trump)... this seems to make 4 every time and 7 if A, J and K on your left, 6 if 2 of those on your left

i think :)
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Posted 2004-August-06, 03:10

luke warm, on Aug 5 2004, 07:12 PM, said:

win in hand, lead 9 only trumping if covered, tossing heart otherwise... win trump return, trump heart, lead 10 throwing heart or trumping if covered... if it loses, win the return, draw trumps, run clubs, finesse a diamond (save a trump)... this seems to make 4 every time and 7 if A, J and K on your left, 6 if 2 of those on your left

i think :ph34r:

check yourself with 4-1 trump break, are you sure ur making ?
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Posted 2004-August-06, 20:30

:) You have ten tricks - five spades, a heart, two diamonds, a club, and a club ruff. You have to promote them and untangle them.

Win trick 1 in dummy and let the HK ride for a ruffing finesse, pitching a club.

When it loses, take the next trump in hand and ruff a club. If trumps were 3-2, ruff a heart, lead the CK. If it loses to the ace on your right, and a club comes back, play the 9 to get 2C,1H,1D,1ruff,5trumps. Otherwise, finesse DQ to guarantee 10 tricks.

If trumps are 4-1, I think you need the diamond finesse. Still ruff the heart, draw trump, taking 5 trumps, 1 ruff, 3d, 1h.

If the HK gets covered WILL FINISH POST TOMORROW :lol:
Edited: I lied, not finishing - due to lack of interest.
I tend to lead fourth best - as opposed to the best suit, the second best suit, or the third best suit for our side
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Posted 2004-August-07, 03:39

The lines presented here are ok, but i think they go down when the cards lay very bad for you, as they did to me.
I think there might be an intresting and maybe better line.
The lead of trump will seldom be from a singelton, if spades are 3-2 i will make it, so my problem is when the lead was from 4 card suit.
How about taking the spade at my hand and finnesing diamond right away, if it loses, east will have no trump (or they break 3-2) if he continue heart, i can play low, and will have 2 high hearts in dummy.
Not sure about it. Hands like this one are too complex for me.
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Posted 2004-August-07, 11:50

so you're basing your play on west leading a trump from 4, right? if that's the case, why is my lead of 9 wrong?

east has no trump, so what does he return (assuming west doesn't cover, in which case i trump)? club? i play the K... a diamond is fine... heart? i toss a diamond (the Q, you never know).. say this loses to west's ace... now what? trump? probably another club (even if from ace)

maybe it doesn't make, i'd need to see the hands, but it sure appears to... what line did you take?
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