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Believe it or not This really happened to me today

#1 User is offline   Cascade 

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Posted 2010-July-18, 04:14

(2) PASS (6) ...

Who would really bid like this?

Yes it really happened.

But wait there is more.

The auction really went ...

1 (2) PASS (6)
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and as I was about to pass my RHO said oh whoops I thought 2 was the opening bid.

Now she wanted to change to 4.

She called the director and the director said she could not change based on her misreading the auction.

So 6 became the final contract.

And it made!!!!!! :)

She had 8 solid and just needed a club finesse through my opening bid to make - dummy also had KQ and A
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Posted 2010-July-18, 06:09

Did she at least offer you a drink after this or didn't she even realise how awfull this all was?
Where did you find the strenght to post this?
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Posted 2010-July-18, 08:58

LOL. Think she owes you a glass of the wobbly knee juice.
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Posted 2010-July-18, 09:33

Good story Wayne, I wish my mistakes turned out this way.
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Posted 2010-July-19, 17:42

  • (_P) 1 (2) 4
    (6) AP
    (or something similar) Michael Rosenberg passed as dealer with ten but jumped to 6 over my 4. AFAIR 6 went one down.
  • (_P) _P (1) 6N AP
    I struggled home in 6N when dummy appeared with an Ace and other goodies. An opponent asked my partner, Ian Thomson, why he hadn't raised to seven. He explained that we played weak jump overcalls.

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Posted 2010-July-20, 02:12

nige1, on Jul 19 2010, 06:42 PM, said:

  • (_P) 1 (2) 4
    (6) AP
    (or something similar) Michael Rosenberg passed as dealer with ten but jumped to 6 over my 4. AFAIR 6 went one down.
  • (_P) _P (1) 6N AP
    I struggled home in 6N when dummy appeared with an Ace and other goodies. An opponent asked my partner, Ian Thomson, why he hadn't raised to seven. He explained that we played weak jump overcalls.

I've twice passed 10 card suits as dealer (I've held 3 so far, one of each of the shapes) then arrived at the 6 level.

P-4-P-P-6 was one auction +920 losing IMPS because it was doubled at the other table, my hand was void, Ax, x, AKJxxxxxxx.

AQJxxxxxxx, void, void, xxx

You know from the auction partner has an 0454 18 count, but not his precise high cards so you opt for 6. This gets doubled on your right, they don't find the club lead, but partner's hand is void, AQxx, AQJxx, KQxx so you only have 2 discards, -1 for a bottom with RHO holding Kx. Somebody I now partner on occasions got the room bottom the other way, similar auction, but his partner led a trump.

Then of course there's the old chestnut of the unopposed 1N-2N-6N playing weak no trump, where you've opened one so filthy you forget you've opened it, and raise partner's "opening" 2N to 6.
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Posted 2010-July-20, 09:16

Years ago in a drunken rubber game, one pair had read 1/2 an article on some Italian/Roman thingy and (mis) used it to get to 7nt missing all four kings.

They started the trash talking after the second finesses won and rolled it home, needing all four.

The good news? I was sitting out that rubber.
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Posted 2010-July-20, 09:31

Jxx-x-Qxxxx-Jxxx

You open 2 (showing a strong hand, or a weak hand with diamonds), lefty bid 2. Your screenmate on the right explains it as "majors" and bids 6, which you partner doubles (he heard the explanation through the screen but since 2 wasn't alerted on his side he knew there was a misunderstanding). Pick a lead.

This problem was on the front page of IMP some four years ago. I don't remember the full hand, but the lead that was chosen at the table let the slam make.
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Posted 2010-July-20, 10:15

helene_t, on Jul 20 2010, 09:31 AM, said:

Jxx-x-Qxxxx-Jxxx

You open 2 (showing a strong hand, or a weak hand with diamonds), lefty bid 2. Your screenmate on the right explains it as "majors" and bids 6, which you partner doubles (he heard the explanation through the screen but since 2 wasn't alerted on his side he knew there was a misunderstanding). Pick a lead.

This problem was on the front page of IMP some four years ago. I don't remember the full hand, but the lead that was chosen at the table let the slam make.

dummy's first bid suit imo
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Posted 2010-July-20, 11:19

Cascade, that was really unlucky!
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Posted 2010-July-20, 13:05

I just saw

2 (multi) 7 (pass/correct)

Responder had like

AKJ
AKQTxxx
Axx
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And opener had a flat 2 with QTxxxx. LOL
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Posted 2010-July-20, 13:39

jdonn, on Jul 21 2010, 05:19 AM, said:

Cascade, that was really unlucky!

It cost us three places 5th instead of 2nd in a one day tournament.

The worst of it all was that it allowed my wife to beat us. :)
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Posted 2010-July-20, 13:53

In a KO match Saturday night, I held:

Scoring: IMP

1 - (P) - 1 - (P)
6! - All Pass


This is not the first time that my partner, who is actually a fine player, leapt to slam. However, this was the largest leap I have seen.

When he tabled the dummy, which was:

Scoring: IMP

1 - (P) - 1 - (P)
6! - All Pass


he commented that he hoped that I had an ace or two. I mentioned to him that there were some conventions that he might have used between 1 and 6 to help answer that question.

In any event, all was well. The one virtue that a leap to slam offers is that it gives the opponents very little information. A spade was led, and after knocking out the trump ace (trump being 2-2), I was able to score 4 clubs, four diamonds, two major suit aces and two spade ruffs. Clubs were 4-2. If diamonds were 3-1, I might have needed 3-3 clubs.

Amazingly enough, this auction was not duplicated at the other table (nor was the contract).
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Posted 2010-July-20, 15:07

This is not the first time you have spoken highly of a player who took a really stupid action!
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Posted 2010-July-20, 15:49

For some players, all that matters is that it worked. :P :)
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Posted 2010-July-21, 09:55

This reminded me of a hand years ago at the Santa Clara Regional and I wonder if any of you would call the director - I didn't. Out of the box, in first seat, my opponent opened 7nt, which made. He did not have 7nt in his hand, I don't remember the hand, but his partner came down with a lot of stuff. I think he said something like, "it was time for something good to happen".

Actually now that I am older and wiser (not) I think he probably heard that something good was going to happen.
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Posted 2010-July-21, 10:19

It's likely to be very hard to prove that this player may have overheard something, particularly given that a player who will actually take advantage of overhearing something will almost certainly not admit it. Fortunately, the TD doesn't have to prove it, he rules on the preponderance of the evidence.

Some players, when the TD is called in a case like this, will scream bloody murder because they "were accused of cheating". "Some" includes most, if not all, of those who actually were cheating, and a few of those who weren't, so I wouldn't worry too much about them being upset. I'd call, report just the facts, and let the chips fall where they may.
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Posted 2010-July-21, 11:17

JoAnneM, on Jul 21 2010, 07:55 AM, said:

This reminded me of a hand years ago at the Santa Clara Regional and I wonder if any of you would call the director - I didn't. Out of the box, in first seat, my opponent opened 7nt, which made. He did not have 7nt in his hand, I don't remember the hand, but his partner came down with a lot of stuff. I think he said something like, "it was time for something good to happen".

Actually now that I am older and wiser (not) I think he probably heard that something good was going to happen.

I think it's a matter for the recorder. And I definitely would have filled out a recorder slip.
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Posted 2010-July-21, 14:59

Many players don't know recorder slips exist. The only thing they know is there's a TD to call.
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Posted 2010-July-21, 17:46

blackshoe, on Jul 21 2010, 12:59 PM, said:

Many players don't know recorder slips exist. The only thing they know is there's a TD to call.

And that's why I mentioned it, so more people will know.
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