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Round 1, Board 16 Forum Bidding Contest

#1 User is offline   inquiry 

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Posted 2010-July-27, 11:12

Scoring: MP

Board 16. If south can, he will overcall 2♥ (with or without a jump). North will raise to 3♥ if possible. After that NS are out of the bidding.

3Hx = 10; 4Cew = 8, 5Dew = 6, 4Sew = 5, 4Dew = 5, 3Sew=4, 3Hns = 3, 5Cew = 2


3H S 6
4S E 6
3Hx S 4
4S W 2
3H N 2
5D E 2
5C E 1
3C W 1
5S E 1
3S E 1
4D E 1


5S E mohitz/akjq
5D E olegru - driver733
5D E tylere / bid_em_up
5C E kristen33/jillybean
4S W East4Evil/sohcahtoa
4S W ant590 - crayzeejim
4S E peachy/lg62
4S E elianna/awm
4S E rogerClee/cherdano
4S E gnasher/catch22
4S E jdonn/gib
4S E sallyally/joylson
4D E kfay/jchiu
3S E Codo-Fluffy
3Hx S mbodell - javabean
3Hx S Flycycle/Wackojack
3Hx S CanadaGrl/Gerardo
3Hx S zasanya/ravia6
3H S karlson/threenobob
3H S jlall/hanp
3H S tlgoodwin/timg
3H S helene_t-agusaris
3H S cascade kermit
3H S Siegmund/MSchmahl
3H N lobowolf/bkjswan
3H N bluecalm/redds
3C W Hrothgar/Free
NA 0 j0i/gwnn
NA 0 Tomi2-JHDW
NA 0 Vampyr/Lamford

Sorted correctly

This post has been edited by inquiry: 2010-July-27, 13:24

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Posted 2010-July-27, 11:25

Hmm, I don't understand why 4♣ is so much better than 4♦. It seems to me that the latter contract is more likely to make. In fact you even scored 5♦ as much better than 5♣... is there some reason diamonds is more likely to make five while clubs is more likely to make four?

It also seems that 3♥X will usually be down one (you get two clubs, two spades, and a diamond) which is only +100. Sure there is a chance at +300, but there is also a chance at -530. On the other hand, 4♦ will almost always make. So it seems like 4♦ is probably a better spot than 3♥X on average?

My scores would've been more like:

4♦ = 10
4♣ = 9
defend 3♥X = 7
5♦ = 5
4♠, 5♣ = 4
3♠, defend 3♥ = 3

Note that this actually makes my own score worse...
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Posted 2010-July-27, 11:36

I was pretty sure javabean and I ended up in 3HX on this board.
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Posted 2010-July-27, 12:30

My partner and I bid 4S on this one. Han was kibitzing at the time and we talked about this hand at length afterward. What happened????
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Posted 2010-July-27, 12:41

Yes, MBodell and I played 3♥X here. Maybe we got peachy's 4♠?

Also, we discussed it afterwards and I can't see how 3♥X scores a ten? It will roll home at least some of the time, and even nipping it a trick is only +100 when we have quite a good shot at +130 in either minor. So I guess, like awm, I am volunteering for a demotion.

Edit: wrote some rubbish after this, but then realized it was rubbish
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Posted 2010-July-27, 12:59

lol, 3♠ might outscore 4♣, 4♦, 3♥X, 5♦ and 4♠, but it gets the fewest points of all :S
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Posted 2010-July-27, 13:25

When I sorted the results originally, somehow the player and the contracts got seperated from each other. I did have the right contracts for everyone recorded, the problem was when I copied and sorted. It should be right now.
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Posted 2010-July-27, 17:54

I bid 1S then passed 3H. I think this is right when partner has a doubleton heart, and wrong when he has a stiff, and he's much more likely to have a doubleton (and might reopen with a stiff and non min).
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Posted 2010-July-27, 20:22

2♣ - pass - 2♦ - 2♥
3♣ - 3♥ - pass ???

I did screw this one up despite good 3♣ bid from my partner the weak-tight of me took the command and I passed ;)

I am not sure if dbl or 4♣ is better now.
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Posted 2010-July-28, 01:45

double for sure, you already showed a min so it basically shows your exact hand (3136 and good defense and a min).
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Posted 2010-July-28, 01:54

I meant what is better instead of pass after 3♥ from the 2♦ bidder.
My partner passed in re-open seat and I think he was right but not sure after your comment.
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Posted 2010-July-28, 02:03

Why would the responder do anything other than pass? He has a purely defensive hand with no prospects of game and no reason to want to bid on with 2 small hearts (2 heart losers), and a massive 2 card fit for clubs. I would be happy to defend, but not so happy that I would have much reason to think I was beating them.

Opener is the one with a stiff heart, and great defense and also good offense in context of having a minimum precision 2C opener.
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Posted 2010-July-28, 02:08

My thinking was:

My partner could have passed with minimum but he bid 3♣
At the time I was thinking that I could have much weaker hand but that is probably wrong. (just those habits, opposite "polish precision" with 5+clubs people bid 2♦ with every kind of crap to scramble to better contract).

Looking at it now it in fact looks like opener should've reopened.
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