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1. What's your first bid?
2. Regardless of what you say, LHO rebids 5D, and partner doubles again. Now what?
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Posted 2010-July-14, 20:17
1. What's your first bid?
2. Regardless of what you say, LHO rebids 5D, and partner doubles again. Now what?
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Posted 2010-July-14, 21:07
Agree with nigel_k
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Posted 2010-July-14, 21:24
Funny. It must be a style thing what exactly 3S shows for different partnerships.
I would bid 2S with this, myself, to show a good positive hand; and my second choice would be to jump to 4S (maybe even my first choice, with a few rather stodgy partners.) I'd never bid 3S with it, because I'd expect that to show a hand more like Q-7 xx xxx x -- warning partner not to carry on to game with just a good 16, but only with a rockcrusher. This is a hand that WANTS to get to game if partner has a good fit for spades.
Over 5D, I have to pass. I'd have taken the push to 4 obviously.
I would bid 2S with this, myself, to show a good positive hand; and my second choice would be to jump to 4S (maybe even my first choice, with a few rather stodgy partners.) I'd never bid 3S with it, because I'd expect that to show a hand more like Q-7 xx xxx x -- warning partner not to carry on to game with just a good 16, but only with a rockcrusher. This is a hand that WANTS to get to game if partner has a good fit for spades.
Over 5D, I have to pass. I'd have taken the push to 4 obviously.
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Posted 2010-July-14, 21:51
2♠ or 4♠...then live with the choice --no more calls from me if opener competes. Probably 4.
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Posted 2010-July-14, 22:10
2♠ and we're done.
I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.
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Posted 2010-July-14, 23:00
kayin801, on Jul 14 2010, 11:10 PM, said:
2♠ and we're done.
Done? I'm definitely bidding over 3 of something by the opps!
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Posted 2010-July-15, 01:49
Siegmund, on Jul 15 2010, 04:24 AM, said:
Funny. It must be a style thing what exactly 3S shows for different partnerships.
Yes. There was a thread about it a year or two ago.
I'd bid 3♠, showing a hand that's like a 2♠ bid but better.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-July-15, 02:09
2S. This is too strong for 3S.
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Posted 2010-July-15, 02:49
7 loser hand? 4S and pass.
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Posted 2010-July-15, 05:20
you can never be very wrong bidding 4M with 6 cardsopposite a take otu double, but the hand is very flat today, and I am content with 3♠.
2♠ is out for me as it shows exactly 4 spades (rarely 5)
Next is pass for sure.
2♠ is out for me as it shows exactly 4 spades (rarely 5)
Next is pass for sure.
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Posted 2010-July-15, 05:47
4♠ lalalalalalalala can't hear you lalalalala
will pass partner's double.
will pass partner's double.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2010-July-15, 06:08
I would like to bid 3,75 ♠ as this is out, I try 4.
The next one is the easiest descission ever: pass.
The next one is the easiest descission ever: pass.
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Posted 2010-July-15, 09:58
Why is the decision to pass 5♦-X so easy? What sort of hands do you expect from LHO and partner?
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Posted 2010-July-15, 10:06
quiddity, on Jul 15 2010, 09:58 AM, said:
Why is the decision to pass 5♦-X so easy? What sort of hands do you expect from LHO and partner?
From Partner, I expect a hand which saw my 4S bid and doesn't want to see a 5S bid. What LHO has is his problem.
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Posted 2010-July-15, 10:13
I call 2♠ which should be the equivalent of a constructive raise; 3♠ would be a limit raise equivalent. I pass over 5♦x due to the outstanding distribution of my non♠ suits 
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Posted 2010-July-15, 11:15
aguahombre, on Jul 15 2010, 11:06 AM, said:
quiddity, on Jul 15 2010, 09:58 AM, said:
Why is the decision to pass 5♦-X so easy? What sort of hands do you expect from LHO and partner?
From Partner, I expect a hand which saw my 4S bid and doesn't want to see a 5S bid. What LHO has is his problem.
So you play partner's pass over 5♦ as forcing? I guess that's reasonable since RHO is likely to be broke.
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Posted 2010-July-15, 12:43
JLOGIC, on Jul 14 2010, 10:00 PM, said:
kayin801, on Jul 14 2010, 11:10 PM, said:
2♠ and we're done.
Done? I'm definitely bidding over 3 of something by the opps!
Well yeah, but OP said the next bid was 5♦ after that
I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.
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