BBO Discussion Forums: Playing bridge with mum - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Playing bridge with mum

#1 User is offline   Little Kid 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 323
  • Joined: 2008-May-26
  • Location:London
  • Interests:Genetic Engineering, Squash, Languages, Travelling, Table Tennis, Movies, Judo, Swimming, Scuba Diving, Climbing...

Posted 2010-July-09, 09:15

Scoring: MP

1♦-(Pass)-2♣-(Pass)
2♦ - (X) - 2♥ - (Pass)
 ?

Your are playing at the local club against one of the better pairs. Although maybe a tad lighter than your usual openings you decide to open 1♦, showing 4+ ♦s. The auction proceeds, 2♣ being 10+ natural. What do you bid now? Double showed the majors and points.
♣ Veni, vidi, proficisci ♣
0

#2 User is offline   Fluffy 

  • World International Master without a clue
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 17,404
  • Joined: 2003-November-13
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:madrid

Posted 2010-July-09, 09:42

2♠ I think, 2NT and 3NT are appealing, I want partner to bid 3♣ before I bid 3NT
0

#3 User is offline   kfay 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,208
  • Joined: 2007-July-01
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Michigan
  • Interests:Science, Sports

Posted 2010-July-09, 09:44

Fluffy, on Jul 9 2010, 10:42 AM, said:

2♠ I think, 2NT and 3NT are appealing, I want partner to bid 3♣ before I bid 3NT

You don't want to raise hearts?

I thought the question was pass or 3♥, maybe I'm crazy.
Kevin Fay
0

#4 User is offline   Phil 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 10,094
  • Joined: 2008-December-11
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:North Texas, USA
  • Interests:Mountain Biking

Posted 2010-July-09, 11:28

kfay, on Jul 9 2010, 10:44 AM, said:

Fluffy, on Jul 9 2010, 10:42 AM, said:

2♠ I think, 2NT and 3NT are appealing, I want partner to bid 3♣ before I bid 3NT

You don't want to raise hearts?

I thought the question was pass or 3♥, maybe I'm crazy.

Youre crazy if you pass.

3♥. Whats with today's problems?
Hi y'all!

Winner - BBO Challenge bracket #6 - February, 2017.
0

#5 User is offline   Nilz 

  • PipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 30
  • Joined: 2010-July-07

Posted 2010-July-09, 11:47

Phil, on Jul 9 2010, 12:28 PM, said:

kfay, on Jul 9 2010, 10:44 AM, said:

Fluffy, on Jul 9 2010, 10:42 AM, said:

2♠ I think, 2NT and 3NT are appealing, I want partner to bid 3♣ before I bid 3NT

You don't want to raise hearts?

I thought the question was pass or 3♥, maybe I'm crazy.

Youre crazy if you pass.

3♥. Whats with today's problems?

Assuming 2H was natural, I thought the question was whether to bid 3H or 4H. Maybe I'm crazier.
If people are even considering pass as an option, they must think that 2H is not forcing. Does that mean that redouble is the only way responder can force with a good hand on this auction? Or is there another way? If RHO is about to bounce to 4S, that agreement seems sub-optimal, but what do I know.
0

#6 User is offline   jjbrr 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,525
  • Joined: 2009-March-30
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2010-July-09, 11:59

agree with phil
OK
bed
0

#7 User is offline   Bbradley62 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 6,542
  • Joined: 2010-February-01
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Brooklyn, NY, USA

Posted 2010-July-09, 12:09

Nilz, on Jul 9 2010, 01:47 PM, said:

Assuming 2H was natural, I thought the question was whether to bid 3H or 4H.

Me too. 3♥.
0

#8 User is offline   whereagles 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 14,900
  • Joined: 2004-May-11
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Portugal
  • Interests:Everything!

Posted 2010-July-09, 12:22

3♥. I consider this a non-problem :)
0

#9 User is offline   Nilz 

  • PipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 30
  • Joined: 2010-July-07

Posted 2010-July-09, 12:32

Bbradley62, on Jul 9 2010, 01:09 PM, said:

Nilz, on Jul 9 2010, 01:47 PM, said:

Assuming 2H was natural, I thought the question was whether to bid 3H or 4H.

Me too. 3♥.

The only problem with raising hearts is that I'd be dummy. So with regards to the thread title, if playing with my mum, then I can understand someone who would pass, since she can't play bridge.
0

#10 User is offline   dburn 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,154
  • Joined: 2005-July-19

Posted 2010-July-09, 12:35

kfay, on Jul 9 2010, 10:44 AM, said:

Fluffy, on Jul 9 2010, 10:42 AM, said:

2♠ I think, 2NT and 3NT are appealing, I want partner to bid 3♣ before I bid 3NT

You don't want to raise hearts?

I don't want to raise hearts if, following LHO's double of 2♦ showing "majors and points", partner might not have hearts. Perhaps partner is showing a heart guard but no spade guard for notrump purposes. Perhaps partner expects me to realise this, since partner did not respond 1♥ to 1♦ nor redouble 2♦, which partner might be expected to do with length and strength in (at least) one of the majors.

Mind you, the whole thing is a bit of a puzzle - could not LHO have doubled one diamond to show "majors and points"? The only reason I can see for not doing this is that he also has diamonds, which leaves him very short in clubs. This means that we won't make whatever it is we end up in (as we usually don't when we open a weak three-suited hand and do not find a fit in short order).

Still, I'm not going to pass a forcing bid, and I guess I have a spade guard of sorts, so I had better bid 2NT. I don't like it, but I'm not paid to like it.
When Senators have had their sport
And sealed the Law by vote,
It little matters what they thought -
We hang for what they wrote.
0

#11 User is offline   jdonn 

  • - - T98765432 AQT8
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 15,085
  • Joined: 2005-June-23
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Las Vegas, NV

Posted 2010-July-09, 12:40

It's clear to me partner showed hearts so I raise. I don't buy that partner should be showing stoppers any more than after 1♦ (X). Especially if it's mum.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
0

#12 User is offline   billw55 

  • enigmatic
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 4,757
  • Joined: 2009-July-31
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2010-July-09, 12:48

OK lemme get my C flight brain in gear ...

new suit by responder? check
a reverse, sort of? check
so, forcing? check
partner has hearts? check
I have four hearts and a void? check
partner doesn't know this yet? check

ergo, bid hearts.
Life is long and beautiful, if bad things happen, good things will follow.
-gwnn
0

#13 User is offline   jjbrr 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,525
  • Joined: 2009-March-30
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2010-July-09, 12:54

what did mum have to say about you opening with 10 honor count points?
OK
bed
0

#14 User is offline   sectorzz9 

  • PipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 17
  • Joined: 2008-July-08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Bristol, UK

Posted 2010-July-09, 15:03

Looks like partner has hearts, and I certainly have hearts, so I'm bidding 3♥.
0

#15 User is offline   Little Kid 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 323
  • Joined: 2008-May-26
  • Location:London
  • Interests:Genetic Engineering, Squash, Languages, Travelling, Table Tennis, Movies, Judo, Swimming, Scuba Diving, Climbing...

Posted 2010-July-09, 17:32

jjbrr, on Jul 9 2010, 01:54 PM, said:

what did mum have to say about you opening with 10 honor count points?

When dummy came down after the bidding she started sighing and then played her contract :lol: I mentioned something about trust in her declarer play which seemed to work as an excuse :P
♣ Veni, vidi, proficisci ♣
0

#16 User is offline   PeterGill 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 139
  • Joined: 2006-September-18

Posted 2010-July-10, 02:19

David wrote: "I had better bid 2NT. I don't like it, but I'm not paid to like it."

I don't get paid when I play with my mum. :)

I would never ever open 1D playing with my mum - with my mum, my bids
must be what she wants, not what I want. Am I not my mother's son?

Though Pass is obviously the right call under the circumstances,
I would probably bid either 2S or 3H with regret, me being too wimpish to Pass 2H.
0

#17 User is offline   pooltuna 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,814
  • Joined: 2009-July-23
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New Orleans

Posted 2010-July-10, 07:09

next time you need to be sure mum has a full box of bidding cards. Ones that include the XX cards.
"Tell me of your home world, Usul"
the Freman, Chani from the move "Dune"

"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."

George Bernard Shaw
0

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users