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Posted 2010-July-07, 16:52

Scoring: IMP

1♦ - 1♠
3NT* - ?

* 3NT: Good 6-7 card suit, semi-bal hand with unbid suits usually stopped. You respond very light to openers and his strength is anywhere from a minimum GF to just under a 2♣ bid. Normally 6222, 6331, 7321 and 7222 shapes.


Do you agree with 1♠? What would you do if the auction proceeded like this?
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Posted 2010-July-07, 17:06

I have no way to force in spades here so I have to guess. 6♠ I suppose. I would probably just try 4 if my singleton was clubs instead of diamonds.

Maybe 4♣ or something should be a slam try for my suit. I never thought about it before but it doesn't make tons of sense for me to introduce a new minor on this auction.
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Posted 2010-July-07, 17:28

4D for me is always key in D so its an easy 4C for now, if partner has a H control he can bid 4D or 4H in wich case ill jump to 6S, otherwise ill correct 5D to 5S or pass a 4S cue.
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Posted 2010-July-07, 17:39

4♣ might mean whatever, but we are never getting any accuracy anyway, so lets just try 6♠ wich rates to make.
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Posted 2010-July-07, 17:47

jdonn, on Jul 8 2010, 11:06 AM, said:

I have no way to force in spades here so I have to guess. 6♠ I suppose. I would probably just try 4 if my singleton was clubs instead of diamonds.

Maybe 4♣ or something should be a slam try for my suit. I never thought about it before but it doesn't make tons of sense for me to introduce a new minor on this auction.

Aren't shapes like 7330, 7321, 6331, 6322 quite common for partner. If so we could easily belong in a 5=3 minor suit fit at the slam level.
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Posted 2010-July-07, 18:00

I seriously doubt it...
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Posted 2010-July-07, 18:48

What would 5♣ be?
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Posted 2010-July-07, 19:16

7♠.
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Posted 2010-July-07, 19:23

TimG, on Jul 7 2010, 07:48 PM, said:

What would 5♣ be?

Gerber obv :(

Thats my call; we might as well get to 7♠ is pard has three aces. I can't out what I need to know if pard is missing one, so I will settle for 6.
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Posted 2010-July-07, 19:44

4♣ should totally be artificial!

On this hand, not sure... 6♠ is ok, I guess.
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Posted 2010-July-07, 21:38

Phil, on Jul 7 2010, 08:23 PM, said:

TimG, on Jul 7 2010, 07:48 PM, said:

What would 5♣ be?

Gerber obv :(

Thats my call; we might as well get to 7♠ is pard has three aces. I can't out what I need to know if pard is missing one, so I will settle for 6.

lol serious post or sarcastic?

Oh you said 5♣ ok probably serious post!
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Posted 2010-July-07, 23:01

Good thing only 100's of people are reading my horrible syntax and grammar. I wonder what is going through my brain sometimes.

I still bid 5♣ in case you are wondering.
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Posted 2010-July-07, 23:34

I'd bid 5♣ as exclusion rkcb in ♠ (last suit bid naturally) and if partner shows me two keycards I should have plenty of room to ask about the ♦K and ♥K to potentially bid the grand. Dream auction:

1♦ : 1♠
3NT : 5♣(1)
5♠(2) : 5NT(3)
6♥(4) : 7♠(5)

(1) Exclusion RKCB in ♠
(2) 2 keys no ♠Q
(3) Asking for ♦K (doesn't ask for ♣K due to known void)
(4) ♦K & ♥K
(5) I hope this ♠ suit will play for no losers!
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Posted 2010-July-08, 02:06

Would be nice to have gadgets. But I don't, so I'll join the 6S bandwagon.
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Posted 2010-July-08, 09:13

I would bid 6♠ with either 9310 or 9301.
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