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Posted 2010-June-28, 18:23

J95
AK862
KT
QJ7

432
975
AQ2
AK53

South deals, 1C 1H 1N...
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Posted 2010-June-28, 18:29

1♣-1♥
1N-2♣*
2♦-3NT**
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* forces 2♦
** choice of games with 5332

with nothing fancy:

1♣-1H
1N-checkback
2♥-3N choice of games with 5332 I think
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Posted 2010-June-29, 01:52

1♣-1♦ (clubs or balanced / hearts)
1♥-2♦ (3 hearts / FG enquiry)
2♥-2♠ (balanced / forces 2NT)
2NT-3♦ (forced / 3523 choice of games)
3NT

Sorry, I know that probably wasn't very interesting for most readers, but good hands for my methods come up so rarely that I like to make the most of them.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-June-29, 01:54

gwnn, on Jun 29 2010, 01:29 AM, said:

1♣-1♥
1N-2♣*
2♦-3NT**
p

* forces 2♦
** choice of games with 5332

with nothing fancy:

1♣-1H
1N-checkback
2♥-3N choice of games with 5332 I think
p

Presumably you'd also get to 3NT if responder had ♠K10 and ♦J9x. That's not such a good idea, is it?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-June-29, 02:03

Oh sure it's not; but OP asked me to reach 3NT ;) I wanted to write something along the lines of your reply to append my post but I gave up. Anyway I'd always offer 3NT as responder; the question is should opener stay there or pull with xxx in spades? Hard to say when seeing the full hand - so I just pretended that wasn't a problem and there. To make my posts here somewhat more intellectually honest, I will note that the opps are very silent to opener can surmise that partner is more likely to have 3 spades than 2 spades.
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Posted 2010-June-29, 02:05

Of course it doesn't have to be right, but if responder shows some 5332 and offers a choice I think it's clear for opener to choose 3NT. He is 3334 with xxx of hearts. And yes the silence of the opponents increases partner's expected spade length/strength and decreases the chances LHO has a natural spade lead.
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