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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2010-June-23, 17:26

What's your first language? I am continually astonished when people say 'oh English is not my first language' and I thought it was. Please also answer if your first language is English.

Mine is Hungarian.
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Posted 2010-June-23, 17:43

English.

I think in my case it's most accurate to say English is my second language and I don't have a first. ;)
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Posted 2010-June-23, 17:50

gwnn, on Jun 23 2010, 11:26 PM, said:

What's your first language? I am continually astonished when people say 'oh English is not my first language' and I thought it was. Please also answer if your first language is English.

Mine is Hungarian.

Chinese. Could be Shanghaiese because I don't speak Mandarin before I was 6. Still, I can't speak Shanghaiese well now.
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Posted 2010-June-23, 19:01

Spanish.

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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2010-June-23, 19:10

I don't have a first language.
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Posted 2010-June-23, 19:10

English.
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Posted 2010-June-23, 19:19

English, French, Fortran...
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Posted 2010-June-23, 19:27

english brah
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Posted 2010-June-23, 20:06

Russian but my English is undoubtedly better than my Russian.
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Posted 2010-June-23, 20:22

English. I used to have a second language, but I am sad to say I lost it somewhere along the way.
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Posted 2010-June-24, 01:36

Polish/German
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Posted 2010-June-24, 02:25

Danish.
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Posted 2010-June-24, 03:25

What does "first language" really mean?

- Does it mean the language you learnt first (chronologically in your life)?
- Do you assume it to mean the operational language that you use when you still communicate with family members older than you? (parents, uncles/cousins etc)?
- Does it mean the language in which you do most of your thinking?

If it is the last option, my answer is English!

I'm Indian and speak / spoke various Indian languages with my family members, but my thinking process is almost totally in English. And I often find it more difficult to express myself in my "native language" than in English.
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Posted 2010-June-24, 04:03

Yah, I speak Minnesotan. You bet.
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Posted 2010-June-24, 04:26

I was trying to figure out the other day whether I really use some language when I am thinking, I think the conclusion was that there are no specific words and it's just a sort of human ASM that I use. Thoughts?
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Posted 2010-June-24, 04:29

I think in German.

I need to be a long time in the States or GB to start thinking English. And yes I think words, I am very bad in viszualising- that is why I suck at bridge. :(
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Posted 2010-June-24, 04:37

The longer I stay in Germany, the more I think in German language, its a natural process.
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Posted 2010-June-24, 06:05

gwnn, on Jun 24 2010, 11:26 AM, said:

I was trying to figure out the other day whether I really use some language when I am thinking, I think the conclusion was that there are no specific words and it's just a sort of human ASM that I use. Thoughts?

Roger Penrose made an interesting point in "The emperor's new mind". He said that it is a prevailing idea in the literature on consciousness that language is a prerequisite for consciousness, and that that is probably due to the fact that most of it has been written by philosophers, who are a sort of people that think a lot in words.

He, as a mathematician/physicist, thinks mainly in images.

I think mainly in words but can also think of some abstract concepts without using words (for example about abstract concepts that I don't have words for). I will then mainly think in some kind of meta-graphical, i.e. something that is semantically close to images not quite images. I am very bad at drawing which I attribute to my thinking not quite crossing the boundary between meta-graphical and graphical. When thinking about emotions, smells and sounds I will just recall the sensation and not putting words on it except if I am musing about how to explain it to someone. When smelling food and musing about which kind of food it is I will sometimes think only in images taste of the food but sometimes in names of food also, especially if it is highly processed food where the ingredients have become obscured.

I think mainly in English nowadays but I thought mainly in Dutch until recently, and will still think in Dutch when I think about social issues, gossip and such. There have been times when I thought mainly in German. But the other languages I speak a little bit of (French, Spanish, Russian, Esperanto) I have never used for thinking, except when thinking about something I wanted to say or something I have heard in that language.
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Posted 2010-June-24, 06:09

Helene doesn't your throat hurt if you think a lot about gossip?
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Posted 2010-June-24, 06:11

I think your first language is the language you count on.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

Besides playing for fun, most people also like to play bridge to win


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