[gwnn]

KQT
A53
JT6
9742

favourable MP LHO deals:

p-p-1♦-p
1NT-x-p-???

[Cascade]

2♦ - I hope partner has a five-card major.

[Bbradley62]

Pass

[Codo]

2 ♣ because you said that there are three options.

[whereagles]

pass. All or nothing.. lol

[655321]

I don't have a strong opinion on what to bid (maybe even 2♠?) but I really don't like pass. Partner is a passed hand with short diamonds, they have at least half the deck and probably more, and (if LHO passes the double out instead of running to diamonds) they are are usually making 1NT unless we can take the first 7 tricks. Sure it is possible we can win the first 4 spades, then some hearts, but I don't think it is likely.

[Cascade]

655321, on Jun 24 2010, 07:53 PM, said:

I don't have a strong opinion on what to bid (maybe even 2♠?) but I really don't like pass. Partner is a passed hand with short diamonds, they have at least half the deck and probably more, and (if LHO passes the double out instead of running to diamonds) they are are usually making 1NT unless we can take the first 7 tricks. Sure it is possible we can win the first 4 spades, then some hearts, but I don't think it is likely.

I think you overstate the opponents combined strength - partner is allowed a balanced 11 count. However I agree with your sentiments.

Given that 1NT over 1♦ usually has some clubs I think partner's double is asking us to bid a major - in a sense takeout of both diamonds and clubs. I am certainly not in love with bidding four small.

[mike777]

gwnn, on Jun 23 2010, 06:32 PM, said:

KQT
A53
JT6
9742

favourable MP LHO deals:

p-p-1♦-p
1NT-x-p-???

2d easy
---------------


cue or x with hard hand

[rogerclee]

Yeah I would bid 2D, I agree that pass is horrible. 2C is too likely to run into bad breaks (basically 100% of the time you get to play 2C possibly doubled, LHO has 4+ trumps).

[andy_h]

rogerclee, on Jun 24 2010, 08:37 PM, said:

Yeah I would bid 2D, I agree that pass is horrible. 2C is too likely to run into bad breaks (basically 100% of the time you get to play 2C possibly doubled, LHO has 4+ trumps).

100% is a bit of an overbid? 3343 is possible or maybe a bad 4cM or maybe the opponents play inverted minors on for a passed hand and so more hand types would come in. Otherwise I agree with 2♦.

[gwnn]

I think clee meant to say that LHO would bid 2D when he doesn't have 4 clubs.

[Codo]

If you belive that LHO will bid 2 ♦ w/o 4 clubs, you better bid 2♣.
And if they double, you can XX for SOS, can't you?

So with 2 club you have seldom a worse position then with 2 ♦ but sometimes a better one (If you belong in clubs or if they bid diamonds).

[gwnn]

why is them bidding diamonds a good position? i dont really understand

[Codo]

Do you think that 2 M in a 4-3 fit will score better for our side then 2 ♦ from their side? I do not.
So after a direct 2 ♦ from us, we will usually win, if we find partner with a 5 card major. But if we bid 2 ♣ and let them out in 2 ♦ we will often win if partner has no 5 card major. I guess this is much more likely to happen.

[hanp]

I'll bid 2C.

[ArtK78]

I am really surprised that this is a problem. I would bid 2♣.

Partner, a passed hand, made a takeout double of diamonds. So I bid my longest suit.

Pass is out of the question as partner is a passed hand. He should be bidding on diamond shortness on this auction. I have no reason to believe that we are taking 7 or more tricks in notrump, but we may do OK in a 4-4 fit and clubs rates to be at least a 4-4 fit.

[gnasher]

I'd bid 2♣ too. Partner has asked me to bid my longest suit, and I have a suit which is longer than the other two.

Partner also knows that responder is likely to have four clubs; if he has a five-card major he may remove 2♣ himself.

[cherdanno]

Is double really takeout of diamonds? Opener has shown diamonds, responder has shown clubs, shouldn't this be a double for the majors?

[gnasher]

cherdanno, on Jun 24 2010, 03:41 PM, said:

Is double really takeout of diamonds? Opener has shown diamonds, responder has shown clubs, shouldn't this be a double for the majors?

Perhaps the "three options" in the title refers to what partner might do if he had both majors. He could:
- Bid 2♦ directly over 1NT
- Double and convert 2♣ to 2♥, showing four spades and five hearts
- Double and convert 2♣ to 2♦, showing (if he's a thoughtful player) five spades and four hearts.

And I don't agree that responder has shown clubs. People respond 1NT on 3343 or even 3352 shapes sometimes, especially at matchpoints.

[hanp]

I also don't agree that responder has shown clubs. 3352 is possible when playing inverted minors and 3343 is normal.