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twilight zone!! or cuckoo's nest??

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Posted 2010-June-15, 14:55

AKJ62
K754
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A84

MP 3rd seat unfav you bid 1S. Simple enough.

p-p-1S-1N
p-2H-p-2N
p-p-p

2H was natural. 2N was insanity.

Partner leads the 9 of spades and dummy has the Queen!!


wow


I got a big fat zero!

Dummy plays the Queen.
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Posted 2010-June-15, 16:00

Looks like he is 4-1-4-4 often enough and even if he somehow has xx ♥ I still want to switch to that suit.
I take K♠ and switch to ♥ now.
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Posted 2010-June-16, 03:45

bluecalm, on Jun 15 2010, 11:00 PM, said:

Looks like he is 4-1-4-4 often enough and even if he somehow has xx ♥ I still want to switch to that suit.
I take K♠ and switch to ♥ now.

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Posted 2010-June-16, 07:21

Heart seems right to me. Playing declarer for T?xx A? AQ?x KQ? and hoping pard has S7, HQ, DJ or CJ.

Not for leading a club and finding declarer with T7xx Ax AQJx KQx.
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Posted 2010-June-16, 08:03

heart was correct.

Declarer actually only had
Txx
AJ
AQxx
KJTx

i returned a club and got a big fat zero for +100, field had +140 in spades.
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Posted 2010-June-16, 08:16

gwnn, on Jun 16 2010, 09:03 AM, said:

heart was correct.

Declarer actually only had
Txx
AJ
AQxx
KJTx

i returned a club and got a big fat zero for +100, field had +140 in spades.

my initial reaction was to duck but I only lead the 9 from 9x. I lead the x from 9yx.
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Posted 2010-June-16, 09:14

its too bad partner doesnt know which card to lead from 9xx
OK
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Posted 2010-June-16, 09:20

well we sort of agreed to lead a big one out of 3 small

anyway jjbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

would you play LHO for 3 small really?


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Posted 2010-June-16, 10:03

Top of nothing may not be so bad against notrumps, but I really don't like it in partner's suit.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-June-16, 10:13

gwnn, on Jun 16 2010, 09:20 AM, said:

well we sort of agreed to lead a big one out of 3 small

anyway jjbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

would you play LHO for 3 small really?


Also, I can't hear myself think with all this vuvuzela on the forums.

No but my partner would never lead 9 from 9xx.

I thought the right play was to play 4 rounds of ♠ and pay off to some weird hands where they take 6♦ tricks and the extra ♠ trick is their 8th. It's just so much more likely we have 6 tricks than it is that they have 7 and need the ♠ for 8.

I also think everyone suggesting the NT bidder is 4144 is mistaken way more often than not; I assumed he was just bad at bridge and/or thought transfers applied so he didn't know what 2♥ was. I would never have switched to a ♥ at trick 2, nor would I duck the Q of ♠ or the second round of ♠ giving dummy an extra entry.

Anyway, like you said this is twilight zone and not a bridge problem. The bidding was wrong and partner's lead was wrong, so how can we be expected to know what to do?
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Posted 2010-June-16, 10:19

nobody was expected to get anything right. in fact i was expecting some club shifts to feel better about my bad bridge skills:)
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Posted 2010-June-16, 12:13

It's ok, I was switching to diamonds, but I misread LHO's insanity.
Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.

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rule number 1 in efficient forum reading:
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Posted 2010-June-16, 15:53

Switching to diamonds can hardly be right. If partner's diamonds are good enough to develop tricks there then you can't reach him. On the other hand a switch to hearts can hardly cost a trick in the suit, and can easily set up tricks for us.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-June-19, 10:50

I admit my simple approach to the hand when I first saw it was to clear spades.
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