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#1 User is offline   kayin801 

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Posted 2010-June-11, 15:18

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I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.

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Posted 2010-June-11, 15:33

I agree.

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Posted 2010-June-11, 15:39

3♥ is more than enough for me. I could totally be convinced this is an overbid but I've got a trick taking-hand, which I think 3♥ shows better than 2♥, even if my strength isn't quite there.

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Posted 2010-June-11, 15:40

LHO likely has a very good hand since partner couldn't bid with (presumably) short spades. I'm going to bid only 3♥. With all these spades I see no reason to go higher since surely partner will be bidding 4♥ if it's where we want to be.
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Posted 2010-June-11, 16:55

3♥ for me. I got a lot of ♠ losers to deal with, which makes 4♥ too rich for me.
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Posted 2010-June-11, 17:47

Group A includes 3 teams now ranked in the Top 20; Group F has only 1 such team.

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Posted 2010-June-11, 18:44

3♥, for I think it keeps 3NT as an option. Like spades 5-4-4 and going down with 2 ruffs and 2 diamonds...

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Posted 2010-June-11, 19:12

kayin801, on Jun 11 2010, 04:18 PM, said:

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definitely looks like a high variance hand to me anything from pass to 4♥ could work out. Anything less than 3♥ has the potential to cost big(i.e. a game) and 3♥ isn't all that safe.
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Posted 2010-June-11, 21:30

Pass is clearly the best bid, but I might get greedy and try 3N, but that can backfire big time, if I do it I would write right away "sorry" on the score card. 4 hearts is disaster bid.
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Posted 2010-June-11, 21:53

3♥, looks normal.
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Posted 2010-June-12, 03:48

3♥ -- is the group with the majority opinon too crowded now :unsure:?
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Posted 2010-June-12, 10:02

Fair enough. 3H looks better. Messi is overrated.
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Posted 2010-June-12, 12:49

zenko, on Jun 11 2010, 10:30 PM, said:

Pass is clearly the best bid

This doesn't seem particularly clear to me, what am I missing?
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Posted 2010-June-12, 21:07

OK, I'm in for 4♥.

Could be a good dive over 4 of either minor, could make but I'm not letting the opening bidder show a minor in comfort.

3♥ might do the job but shows more strength in high cards with 1 less heart? That could lead to 4♣ or ♦ by opener and pard owning a legit double that I won't be fond of.

Bidding 2♥ and letting opener bid 3 happy ♣ or ♦ (or more via a double) is asking for trouble.

I've been VERY wrong before but can't stomach a pass on these cards.
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Posted 2010-June-12, 21:43

dkharty, on Jun 12 2010, 01:49 PM, said:

zenko, on Jun 11 2010, 10:30 PM, said:

Pass is clearly the best bid

This doesn't seem particularly clear to me, what am I missing?

Pard is very unlikely to hold decent values, so bidding anything below 3N will give opponents too much room to find a minor suit fit or even spade game. And even if he has some values then he is odds on to have too many spades for you to survive 4H contract, 3N is much more likely (but not very likely either) to make.
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Posted 2010-June-12, 22:31

zenko, on Jun 12 2010, 11:43 PM, said:

…even if he has some values then he is odds on to have too many spades…

I do not think there is likely to be much of a connection between "some values" and how many spades he has.
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Posted 2010-June-13, 20:25

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Pard is very unlikely to hold decent values


I make it (max. for them) 19 on my left, 4 or less on my right and my 9 gives pard about an 8-10 count. If so, she could have just about any shape with no bid.

4♥ is an effort to block any big or biggish 2-suiter that can cause a lot of grief or if they find a minor fit such as 4♣ on my left and 6 on my right.
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Posted 2010-June-14, 00:04

kayin801, on Jun 11 2010, 04:18 PM, said:

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(1♠)-P-(P)-?

If in need of a swing, will bid 4NT (straight Blackwood). Partner will hold:

♠xxxx ♥Jx ♦AQxxx ♣Ax

and bid 5♥, which I will raise to six. This will make with 2-2 hearts and 3-3 diamonds with the king right, and I shall be a hero.

If not in need of a swing, will bid 2♥, because I don't think we'll make any game if partner passes this.
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Posted 2010-June-14, 03:41

They never lead diamonds when partner has that hand. If I need a swing I'll bid 4H; otherwise 3H for me.
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Posted 2010-June-14, 04:34

In light of recent developments I think it would be safe to say that dburn pays a little too close attention to the state of the match ;)
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