[bluejak]

Very clever. If that is on your CC, I would rule it ok if I were an ACBL TD with a sense of humour. If your CC indicated that 2NT was Lebensohl I would rule against you.

Ok, ok, it is not a great regulation.

[mjj29]

bluejak, on Jun 14 2010, 06:56 PM, said:

Very clever. If that is on your CC, I would rule it ok if I were an ACBL TD with a sense of humour. If your CC indicated that 2NT was Lebensohl I would rule against you.

Ok, ok, it is not a great regulation.

Well, I do play a system where 1NT is sometimes lebensohl even without an insufficient bid, which is in our system notes, although not on the card. I also note that the EBU 20B convention card has a section for "After Interference" next to which I have written "Lebensohl". It doesn't say "After _sufficient_ interference".

[bluejak]

You are playing in the EBU where it is legal to have agreements after opponents' infractions so it does not matter. The question seems to be what may be played when playing in a jurisdiction where this is not the case.

[aguahombre]

I have no opinion to contribute --you are welcome, David. But I do have a question about "GBK", vs. established agreements.

Experienced long-time partnerships have probably run into nearly everything by now. So, 1S (1H) 1S, or one of the other variations, has come up before. Does that put (perhaps unfair) restrictions on ACBL pairs who are experienced? Is that now illegal for them or merely alertable? I know you already said that the ACBL regulations in this area are not great. But, how should we work with what we have?

[bluejak]

Best is not to discuss them, but to assume partner is sensible when they happen, I suppose. But I much prefer the English approach.

If you are going to discuss them, any clever approaches are probably illegal, so just agree on simple approaches, eg double is Sputnik, raises are natural, and so forth.

[aguahombre]

That makes sense. I don't think anyone would buy that in my case (married)

I don't mean the clever variances, of course. But we certainly know by now that accepting and bidding or "raising" to the same level is weak, etc. I think I like the EBU thing better, too.