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Forever young do you really want to live forever?

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Posted 2010-June-08, 06:45

Partner overcalled at favourable MP's after LHO dealt.

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xxx
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Posted 2010-June-08, 06:58

Easy pass in my opinion. If partner had 6diamonds and say spade void or other very offensive hand he would go to 5♦ himself as double should promise at least 2 diamonds and we have 3 here on most cases anyway.
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Posted 2010-June-08, 06:59

Pass, I have good defense. Also my flat hand does not encourage me to bid on, either to make or to sac.
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Posted 2010-June-08, 07:30

Pass. More than half my HCP's are in partner's suit and we might make one or no tricks in that suit. I doubled 2♠, partner knows I'm not poor.

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Posted 2010-June-08, 07:33

surely they're better than kfay's all-caps abominations. :unsure:
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Posted 2010-June-08, 07:34

Not sure if I want to live forever, but I'm sure I would have raised diamonds on the previous round :unsure:
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Posted 2010-June-08, 09:08

5♦. This cannot be down more than 3, so the only way it is wrong is if 4♠ is being set. Most of our hand is useless on defense, and diamonds will be 3-1 a lot of the time.

It wins when 5♦ is inexpensive, and it wins big when they push to 5♠ and go set.
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Posted 2010-June-08, 09:12

what about 5♦ making?, well, I bet my partner wouldn't overcall 2♦ with the real hand anyway.
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Posted 2010-June-08, 09:24

Pass, also I am OK with the auction so far.
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Posted 2010-June-08, 09:29

gwnn, on Jun 8 2010, 08:33 AM, said:

surely they're better than kfay's all-caps abominations. :(

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Posted 2010-June-08, 09:38

your posts are tacky.
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Posted 2010-June-08, 10:20

I pass: I would not have doubled earlier: aiming for a 4=4 heart fit is too narrow a target. I would have raised diamonds, thus confirming for partner that he can save if he has extreme shape. As it is, he made a 2/1 overcall on a poor suit, so he rates to have defence.

Saving seems far too committal. I rate to have 2 defensive tricks (ok, maybe I am overstating the diamond Ace but there is no compelling reason to think declarer IS void as opposed to may be void) and partner should have a card or two outside his suit.

BTW, in addition to the improbability of finding a 4-4 heart fit, and the creation of this 'what do I do now?' sequence, the earlier double would have left us poorly placed had LHO merely bid 3♠. I guess you can tell how much I hate that responsive double.
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Posted 2010-June-08, 12:43

I disagree with double. ♥Axxx is not important in comparison to our strong support. Not a surprise that the auction explodes as it often does when we have unshown support.

I play transfers and would have bid 3♣ as a good raise.

Without transfers I would have bid 3♠. My hand is very suitable for 3NT, so underbidding with 3♦ is certainly out.
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Posted 2010-June-08, 13:11

Phil, on Jun 8 2010, 10:08 AM, said:

Most of our hand is useless on defense,

lol two aces?
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Posted 2010-June-08, 13:19

billw55, on Jun 8 2010, 02:11 PM, said:

Phil, on Jun 8 2010, 10:08 AM, said:

Most of our hand is useless on defense,

lol two aces?

Well, unfortunately partner's ♦K probably isn't taking a trick, and our ♦Q is wallpaper. And its quite possible that we are taking no diamond tricks here.
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Posted 2010-June-08, 13:29

Phil, on Jun 8 2010, 02:19 PM, said:

Well, unfortunately partner's ♦K probably isn't taking a trick, and our ♦Q is wallpaper. And its quite possible that we are taking no diamond tricks here.

Possible, certainly. I think one diamond trick is par. But that's a trick partner doesn't know about; for all he knows the opponents have the ♦A and a stiff. Also partner found a two level overcall with at most KJ in his suit; he must have a fair amount of outside values, even at favorable. I think 4♠ is not a favorite to make, and neither is 5♦ with my flat hand.
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Posted 2010-June-08, 15:28

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I disagree with double. ♥Axxx is not important in comparison to our strong support.


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Posted 2010-June-08, 16:27

MFA, on Jun 8 2010, 01:43 PM, said:

I disagree with double. ♥Axxx is not important in comparison to our strong support. Not a surprise that the auction explodes as it often does when we have unshown support.

I play transfers and would have bid 3♣ as a good raise.

Without transfers I would have bid 3♠. My hand is very suitable for 3NT, so underbidding with 3♦ is certainly out.

I agree that ♥Axxx is unimportant compared to ♦AQT, also that if you have a bid below 3♦ available to show a good raise that would be easily the best bid.

However, if your choices are between 3♦ (too strong) and 3♠ (often forces us to the 4 level on a partscore hand) I think the double is a perfectly acceptable alternative.
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Posted 2010-June-08, 16:32

For a second opinion on making a responsive double with exactly this hand type, see: http://thegargoylechronicles.blogspot.com/...0/board-19.html

As for the OP, clearly you want to defend and the choice is between pass and double. You have 2 defensive tricks and partner overcalled 2D - he did not preempt - so there's a good chance we're beating this. There's also a decent chance that we can make 4D so I'm tempted to try a matchpoint double here. It also gives partner another chance to run if he has a second suit.
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Posted 2010-June-09, 04:08

quiddity, on Jun 9 2010, 12:32 AM, said:

For a second opinion on making a responsive double with exactly this hand type, see: http://thegargoylechronicles.blogspot.com/...0/board-19.html

His actual example is not so good. I have never had opponents who bid so timidly. Both of them had a clearcut second bid. It's not realistic that we have this nice and quiet auction to 4♥ with twenty total tricks, lol.

Doubling with this hand type is fine in general. OP's hand has just too concentrated and sharp values, so I prefer 3♠. xxx, KJxx, Jxx, AQT and you could easily sign me up for a double instead of 3♠.
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