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Accepting a transfer A different thought

#1 User is offline   aguahombre 

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Posted 2010-June-02, 11:02

1NT (P) 2 red* (dbl)
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I have heard all the logic about the importance of showing 3+ with the acceptance of the transfer, but have also seen what doublers often have in this situation. We don't seem to get much wild preemptive interference after the lead-directing double, so we decided to adopt the following:

1) Acceptance of the transfer merely says "It is ok to follow your original plan, partner." Opener either has support for the focus major OR a stopper in the doubled suit (or both).
2) Pass both denies 3+support and denies a stopper in the doubled suit.

If responder had planned to rebid NT after the transfer, she can do it comfortably with this agreement.

Please comment on our agreement, because we have not tested it in more than half a dozen live situations so far and are not sure if it will be as succesful over the long run.
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Posted 2010-June-02, 11:48

Well, it seems that the responder should declare as often as possible almost regardless of his holding in x'ed suit (unless it's low xx/xxx but even 9x is worth protecting) so the agreement which makes opener a declarer more often is probably bad.

I would prefer playing pass = w/e hand
rdbl = support
other = superacceptance (just don't choose our suit for this).

This way x'er will be on lead every time we end up playing in transferred suit which seems to be awesome.
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Posted 2010-June-02, 13:25

I think it is worthwhile to save Rdbl meaning as "to play, if transferer has Hx, xxx. or better in the suit that was doubled". I like getting good scores:) So many people Dbl in that situation with not enough arsenal in the suit.

The second thing I find of great value is to transfer only with three cards, not two. It is useful information in case the auction does get competitive.

So off the bat, without further real analysis of benefits, I don't like the proposed system.
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Posted 2010-June-02, 14:03

I like to play XX= good hand with support, bidding = min with support, passing = no support.
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Posted 2010-June-02, 14:10

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Posted 2010-June-02, 22:44

Some NT openers just demand to have their way, either ignoring your transfers or jumping to the suit. That's not cool. Since the transfer maker is allowed to have zero point, like 9876532 in the case of a transfer, the final decision should always be in the hand of the responding partner :lol:
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Posted 2010-June-03, 02:09

I play the following:
Pass = 2M
...RDbl = retransfer, no need to rightside
...2M = signoff, need to rightside
RDbl = 3M, no need to rightside
2M (acceptance) = 3M, need to rightside
2M+1 = superaccept, we can still rightside afterwards

Basically with Ax+ or xx+ you don't need to rightside. With Qx+, Kx+, AQ+, KQ+ or KJ+ you want to play yourself. With fit you can rightside the contract immediately, without fit it's responder who decides.
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Posted 2010-June-03, 03:46

I complete the transfer without support with the weakests hands to sing off, I never knew why dad teached taught me so, but I haven't seen any differences yet.
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Posted 2010-June-03, 09:00

Thread LOWJack!!!

http://forums.bridge...=ST&f=1&t=39572
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