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Will you try game and how? void vs partner's preempt

#1 User is offline   twcho 

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Posted 2010-May-31, 20:11

XIMP, Both vul, 3rd seat holding:
A875 AJT6 AKT87 -
Partner open 3♣ and your RHO pass. What is your plan? (partner is a sane player who may only preempt wild when NV).
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Posted 2010-May-31, 20:16

pass
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Posted 2010-May-31, 20:25

pass
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Posted 2010-May-31, 20:33

I will not try for game. Pass.
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Posted 2010-May-31, 21:52

I don't see a lot of risk vs reward at imps in bidding 3♦ forcing as we play super disciplined pre-empts in 2nd seat but 1st seat on these colours is a close second.

If pard can bid 3♥ or ♠ on Q 3rd, I'm in for a risky 3nt.

I'll pass if 4♣ if that is all they can do and expect to make it.

If they raise diamonds, I'm probably a favorite for 3nt but will have to struggle in 5♦ instead, sigh.

Meanwhile, x, xx, Qxxx, AQTxxx gets you to slam if pard splinters over 3♦
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Posted 2010-May-31, 23:04

3NT has no reasonable chance - either partner has almost-solid clubs but no entry, or an entry but a big enough hole in clubs that I need two. If you gave me another king I would raise to 5C, and with another queen seriously consider it.
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Posted 2010-June-01, 02:15

3NT won't work, the only game that has a chance is 5♣. I think I'd just pass since 5♣ is a lot!
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Posted 2010-June-01, 02:20

Pass , and hopefully do this in tempo - who knows , you might hear a balancing call from LHO..
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Posted 2010-June-01, 03:29

Pass. If this were a 2nd seat vulnerable vs notvul 3C, I might have something to think about bu probably still Pass.
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Posted 2010-June-01, 05:15

3♦ for me. I hope it's natural. I hope partner won't automatically signoff with something like AKJTxxx and out. I am bidding 5♣ after positive response from him and 5♦ if he shows ♦ supp.
I think passing is reasonable but game will make just too often opposite vulnerable preempts I am used to.
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Posted 2010-June-01, 05:21

mich-b, on Jun 1 2010, 08:20 AM, said:

Pass , and hopefully do this in tempo - who knows , you might hear a balancing call from LHO..

yeah, a balancing double passed around to you, not that it would make me very happy :) but the opponents won't like dummy at least.
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Posted 2010-June-01, 05:41

Pass.
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Posted 2010-June-01, 05:45

Even ♣KQJTxxx may not be enough for 5♣.

Would you condemn pard for opening 3♣ on any seven bagger headed by 2 of the top 3 at these colors? I wouldn't.

So I pass - in Tempo.
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Posted 2010-June-01, 05:53

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Even ♣KQJTxxx may not be enough for 5♣.

Would you condemn pard for opening 3♣ on any seven bagger headed by 2 of the top 3 at these colors? I wouldn't.


No but he will also open x xx Qxx AQJxxxx for example (I think).
Opposite KQJTxxx and out I want to be in game.
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Posted 2010-June-01, 07:36

twcho, on May 31 2010, 09:11 PM, said:

XIMP, Both vul, 3rd seat holding:
A875 AJT6 AKT87 -
Partner open 3♣ and your RHO pass. What is your plan? (partner is a sane player who may only preempt wild when NV).

Bow to the odds and pass
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Posted 2010-June-01, 08:36

I'd probably have bid 5♣, but I see the point people are making.

Worth a shot if you have 1 club, though?
Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.

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