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Lead is ♠10... from righty. Director!
You can choose to (I think):
Accept and let partner play
Have LHO lead a spade
Have LHO lead a non-spade
etc, I forget if there are any other options.
Thoughts?
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Posted 2010-May-28, 15:51
Lead is ♠10... from righty. Director!
You can choose to (I think):
Accept and let partner play
Have LHO lead a spade
Have LHO lead a non-spade
etc, I forget if there are any other options.
Thoughts?
I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.
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Posted 2010-May-28, 16:42
You forgot accept the lead and partner is still dummy. 
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Posted 2010-May-28, 16:48
i think it used to be allowed to accept RHO's lead and play the first trick counter-clockwise.
edit: i think that's what the poster above me (Welcome to the forums!) said.
edit: i think that's what the poster above me (Welcome to the forums!) said.
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Posted 2010-May-28, 16:57
Forbid spades. Why risk one/two ruff(s)? We know how to play spades later, so no reason to want a spade lead from west at this point.
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Posted 2010-May-28, 19:44
Do people think RHO is more likely to be stiff than usual? Much more likely? What was the tempo of the lead?
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Posted 2010-May-28, 21:02
I think I'd require a spade from the correct side.
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Posted 2010-May-28, 21:28
I think I require a spade lead from west. If he has the ace I should gain a trick in spades. And whether he or partner has the ace I will avoid a trump lead, which as usual I don't want on an auction like this.
The other option I consider, which you didn't list but I think is still an option, is to let west lead whatever he wants and leave the spade ten on the table as a penalty card. That way he could lead a trump but as soon as I lose a trick to set up some ruffs I will have more control over what they play next. That might be best instead.
The other option I consider, which you didn't list but I think is still an option, is to let west lead whatever he wants and leave the spade ten on the table as a penalty card. That way he could lead a trump but as soon as I lose a trick to set up some ruffs I will have more control over what they play next. That might be best instead.
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Posted 2010-May-28, 22:45
What are pros/cons of:
Requiring a spade lead from LHO
vs
Spreading my hand as dummy
Seems like my shape is pretty well known. Might as well make my hand the exposed hand.
Requiring a spade lead from LHO
vs
Spreading my hand as dummy
Seems like my shape is pretty well known. Might as well make my hand the exposed hand.
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Posted 2010-May-29, 00:27
Vilgan, on May 28 2010, 11:45 PM, said:
What are pros/cons of:
Requiring a spade lead from LHO
vs
Spreading my hand as dummy
Seems like my shape is pretty well known. Might as well make my hand the exposed hand.
Requiring a spade lead from LHO
vs
Spreading my hand as dummy
Seems like my shape is pretty well known. Might as well make my hand the exposed hand.
Your RHO almost certainly doesn't have the A♠. If your LHO has it, the difference is that the opening lead comes through the K; however, by requiring LHO to lay down the A♠ (or underlead it) you should be able to set up the king. In essence, you prevent the defense from taking advantage of the favorable (for them) location of the ace - behind your king.
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Posted 2010-May-29, 01:54
So has anyone aside from the Hideous Hog tried underleading an ace out of turn?
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Posted 2010-May-29, 02:36
I agree with lobowolf, sounds like best is to require a spade from west.
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Posted 2010-May-29, 07:58
I guess the two options I narrowed it down to were to have west lead a spade and to let partner play it. If west leads a spade I get a lead into my K...
... but if I let partner play it then they don't have complete count on the hand at trick 1 and their defense may be a lot harder. Partner's hand is virtually unknown save the fact they have around opening values and 4+ hearts.
... but if I let partner play it then they don't have complete count on the hand at trick 1 and their defense may be a lot harder. Partner's hand is virtually unknown save the fact they have around opening values and 4+ hearts.
I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.
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