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#1 User is offline   Phil 

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Posted 2010-May-25, 20:47

Scoring: IMP

1D - (3C) - dbl - (4C);
dbl - (pass) - 4H - (pass);
5S - (pass) - 6S - AP


Lead: ♣4

Play on.
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Posted 2010-May-26, 05:00

♠Q (assume they're not 4-0), ♦A, ♦ ruff, draw remaining trumps ending in hand, cash ♦K throwing a heart, and:

- If trumps were 2-2 and diamonds are 4-3 or Qx-xxxxx, eliminate the minors and endplay East in hearts.

- If trumps are 3-1 and ♦Q is trebleton, throw three hearts form dummy.

- Otherwise take two heart finesses.
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Posted 2010-May-26, 09:25

How do trumps split?

Anyway, i think we should start with 2 rounds of trumps (Q-A) to get the ♠ picture.

I suppose that trumps split 1-3.

Somehow it is easier for me to imagine that LHO preempted with ♣KJxxxxx♠x and out, than RHO's 4♣ bid with hands like ♠xxx ♥Jxx ♦ Qxxx ♣Qxx or ♠xxx ♥KJx ♦ xxxx ♣Qxx. I don't know who are the opponents and how much they need for 4♣, but i hope he has some values.

So... maybe it is better to finesse ♥J in trick 4(won by RHO with J), and also finesse ♦Q as they return ♦. Sure this line loses to ♦Qx(xx) offside, but it wins on ♠xxx ♥KJx ♦ Qxxx ♣Qxx.
If RHO has ♦Qxxxx it pretty much leaves RHO with ♥KJ doubleton.
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Posted 2010-May-26, 09:40

wclass___, on May 26 2010, 04:25 PM, said:

So... maybe it is better to finesse ♥J in trick 4(won by RHO with J), and also finesse ♦Q as they return ♦.

Won't RHO just return a club after winning the first heart?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-May-26, 10:12

gnasher, on May 26 2010, 10:40 AM, said:

Won't RHO just return a club after winning the first heart?

Usually in such situations best defense is to force declarer to make instant guess else he might combine some extra chances.

I think it doesn't really matter this time, does it?
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Posted 2010-May-26, 11:27

Sorry, I'd misunderstood what you were doing.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-May-27, 02:15

What leads were they playing?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-May-27, 08:08

gnasher, on May 27 2010, 03:15 AM, said:

What leads were they playing?

3/5 I believe.
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