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Posted 2010-May-24, 13:58

Scoring: IMP

1D - p - ??


Playing 2/1 GF, what would you bid?
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Posted 2010-May-24, 13:59

2♦
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Posted 2010-May-24, 14:20

4NT
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Posted 2010-May-24, 14:56

OleBerg, on May 24 2010, 08:20 PM, said:

4NT

meant as RCKB?, If I can use my own methods I try 3♣ invitational with both minors
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Posted 2010-May-24, 14:59

Given the ratty clubs, I would just invite in diamonds by whatever method I had. At w/r, I'm sure some preempt or tactical bid would be the right answer, but I can't see 4n at r/w.
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Posted 2010-May-24, 15:16

Fluffy, on May 24 2010, 10:56 PM, said:

OleBerg, on May 24 2010, 08:20 PM, said:

4NT

meant as RCKB?, If I can use my own methods I try 3♣ invitational with both minors

RKCB??????????????????????????????????????????
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Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.

Best Regards Ole Berg

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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:

- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.

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Posted 2010-May-24, 15:27

2C (3c if it shows invite with long clubs)
"Bidding Spades to show spades can work well." (Kenberg)
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Posted 2010-May-24, 17:01

OleBerg, on May 24 2010, 09:16 PM, said:

Fluffy, on May 24 2010, 10:56 PM, said:

OleBerg, on May 24 2010, 08:20 PM, said:

4NT

meant as RCKB?, If I can use my own methods I try 3♣ invitational with both minors

RKCB??????????????????????????????????????????

hey, Ole you know?, we have something to counter that in spannish, look: ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿

I was seriously asking if oyu mean 4NT as RKCW or as minors, the former is the standard agreement in 2/1 land IMO and the latter is more kind with out hand.
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Posted 2010-May-24, 17:53

OleBerg, on May 24 2010, 09:16 PM, said:

Fluffy, on May 24 2010, 10:56 PM, said:

OleBerg, on May 24 2010, 08:20 PM, said:

4NT

meant as RCKB?, If I can use my own methods I try 3♣ invitational with both minors

RKCB??????????????????????????????????????????

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Posted 2010-May-24, 18:49

2D I'll probably bid 5C next depending on how the auction goes
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Posted 2010-May-24, 23:55

Fluffy, on May 25 2010, 01:01 AM, said:

OleBerg, on May 24 2010, 09:16 PM, said:

Fluffy, on May 24 2010, 10:56 PM, said:

OleBerg, on May 24 2010, 08:20 PM, said:

4NT

meant as RCKB?, If I can use my own methods I try 3♣ invitational with both minors

RKCB??????????????????????????????????????????

hey, Ole you know?, we have something to counter that in spannish, look: ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿

I was seriously asking if oyu mean 4NT as RKCW or as minors, the former is the standard agreement in 2/1 land IMO and the latter is more kind with out hand.

Well, I must admit that I am not that well-versed in RKCB, but that 4NT here should be RKCB was simply beyound my imagination.

I have a fantazillion other options, if I am slamgoing with diamonds.

If RKCB is "standard" here (which it might very well be), then people not changing that, are simply to lazy.

My ?'s meant, if you really thought I wanted to RKCB on the hand.
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- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.

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Posted 2010-May-24, 23:58

Jlall, on May 24 2010, 07:49 PM, said:

2D I'll probably bid 5C next depending on how the auction goes

Why would you want to bid exclusion in clubs rather than spades?
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Posted 2010-May-25, 00:12

cherdanno, on May 25 2010, 12:58 AM, said:

Jlall, on May 24 2010, 07:49 PM, said:

2D I'll probably bid 5C next depending on how the auction goes

Why would you want to bid exclusion in clubs rather than spades?

I assume this is a joke but I meant if the opps start bidding I'll bid 5C, and I assume they will be like almost always. If they pass I'll just go slow obv.
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Posted 2010-May-25, 02:14

so what does 4nt mean to you OleBerg?????? would you care to tell us?????
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Posted 2010-May-25, 03:41

Zia bid 2C.

Schollaardt doubled, Welland passed and Wortel jumped to 4S. What's your next call with the given hand?
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Posted 2010-May-25, 05:30

4NT minors now.
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Posted 2010-May-25, 06:13

4NT for me also, though I'm not sure it shows specifically minors or more generally two places to play...
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Posted 2010-May-25, 08:35

gwnn, on May 25 2010, 10:14 AM, said:

so what does 4nt mean to you OleBerg?????? would you care to tell us?????

Of course.

The minors.
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Posted 2010-May-25, 08:37

Fair enough I thought it was something like that but how many? And partner should do what? Sorry about all the punctuation it is just pretty addictive.
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Posted 2010-May-25, 08:52

isnt it a pretty crucial piece of information missing from the OP:

How many diamonds has partner promised? Many people play now that one diamonds always 5 with all balanced hands opening 1c.
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