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Is this GCC legal? ACBL

#21 User is offline   TimG 

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Posted 2010-May-23, 11:26

PrecisionL, on May 23 2010, 12:13 PM, said:

TimG, on May 23 2010, 11:33 AM, said:


It has long been held that item #1 under Definitions implicitly permits natural methods, but that is not strictly the case: a 2S opening which shows 5+ spades and a 4+ card minor is not allowed in GCC events despite it being natural by the given definition.

As you point out, under the most recent Laws, there is no longer a definition of conventional and a Sponsoring Organization may designate any method "special" and regulate those methods even if natural.

Well, the CC is a mess and I often get conflicting rulings from rulings@acbl.org, but 5 and 4 hands can be opened 2 if 10+ hcp.

From the allowed section:

6. OPENING BID AT THE TWO LEVEL OR HIGHER indicating two
known suits, a minimum of 10 HCP and at least 5–4 distribution in the
suits.

So, it would appear that your method (promising spades and clubs) is GCC legal. If it was 5+ spades and 4+ in either minor, or if the bid could be made on fewer than the 10 HCP, the method would not be GCC legal.

Item 12 from the mid-chart is:

12. Opening two hearts or two spades showing a weak two bid, with a
4-card minor. (2)

So, a weak opening 2S showing 5+ spades and an undisclosed 4+ card minor is mid-chart legal. But, there does not seem to be a provision for playing a constructive 2S opening showing 5+ spades and an undisclosed 4+ card minor.

The charts are indeed a mess. And, you are not alone in getting conflicting rulings depending upon whom you ask at ACBL (or upon what day of the week you ask).
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Posted 2010-May-23, 16:15

Chris, I agree this is only Midchart legal. As you're also considering using this for the Midchart anyway, why not use for spades...

2C-artificial GF
2D-hearts
2H-LR
2S-CR

for hearts

2C-artificial GF
2D-LR
2H-CR
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