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♠x
♥xxx
♦AKQJ
♣8xxxx
pass-(pass)-1♦-(1♠)
2♣!-(2♠)-??
2♣!= transfer to 2♦ probably just the hand that would bid 2♦.
If you would do otherwise third position favourable say so.
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opps are gonna have something here
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Posted 2010-May-22, 06:10
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Posted 2010-May-22, 06:12
pass i give up the terrorists have won.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2010-May-22, 07:05
Fluffy, on May 22 2010, 07:10 AM, said:
opps Vulnerable
♠x
♥xxx
♦AKQJ
♣8xxxx
pass-(pass)-1♦-(1♠)
2♣!-(2♠)-??
2♣!= transfer to 2♦ probably just the hand that would bid 2♦.
If you would do otherwise third position favourable say so.
♠x
♥xxx
♦AKQJ
♣8xxxx
pass-(pass)-1♦-(1♠)
2♣!-(2♠)-??
2♣!= transfer to 2♦ probably just the hand that would bid 2♦.
If you would do otherwise third position favourable say so.
cooperate with partner who may be trying to jack them up to 3♠. If they clearly belong in game you are not going to stop them but 3♦ eliminates the 2NT, 3♣, and 3♦ games tries.
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"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
the Freman, Chani from the move "Dune"
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
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Posted 2010-May-22, 09:00
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continuation after 3♦ hidden below
ok, not very hidden lol
Spoiler
ok, not very hidden lol
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Posted 2010-May-22, 09:08
pass obv
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Fluffy, on May 22 2010, 10:03 AM, said:
continuation after 3♦ hidden below
ok, not very hidden lol
Spoiler
ok, not very hidden lol
that is why you use
Spoiler
instead of ♣♦♥♠
"Tell me of your home world, Usul"
the Freman, Chani from the move "Dune"
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
the Freman, Chani from the move "Dune"
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
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Posted 2010-May-22, 13:10
I must be as wacky as they come.
On the first round, I would open 3♦. If my partner had no sense of humour whatsoever, and I had a weak 2♦ available, I would try that.
Might seem to rich for most people, but I am third hand favourable, so partner should not run amok. Even if he overcompetes with 4♦ on a three card suit, or 5♦ on a four card suit, we might get away with it. They might bid, when we are way overboard, or they might forget to double, or they might misdefend (Typically by not leading thrumphs.)
Having opened with 1♦, 3♦ is the one bid I will definitely not make. North has already described his hand fairly accurately, by not bidding 2♦. And they still have the 3♥ gametry available. By bidding 3♦ I confirm that our fit is real, and not just implied. I consider this information to be more valuable to the opponents, than missin a few nuances in the invites is detrimental.
So it is either a sneaky pass, or a 4♦ preempt.
And yes, I know I am masterminding (a thing I generally hate, especially when partner does it), but I already took that road, when I opened 1♦.
After the session, the merit of the ambigious 2♣-agreement will be scrutinized.
And finally; if I was asked to take the chair of a player that bid 3♦ after 2♠, I would pass 4♠. Bidding on might be right, but the opponents will have all the information they need to do the right thing.
On the first round, I would open 3♦. If my partner had no sense of humour whatsoever, and I had a weak 2♦ available, I would try that.
Might seem to rich for most people, but I am third hand favourable, so partner should not run amok. Even if he overcompetes with 4♦ on a three card suit, or 5♦ on a four card suit, we might get away with it. They might bid, when we are way overboard, or they might forget to double, or they might misdefend (Typically by not leading thrumphs.)
Having opened with 1♦, 3♦ is the one bid I will definitely not make. North has already described his hand fairly accurately, by not bidding 2♦. And they still have the 3♥ gametry available. By bidding 3♦ I confirm that our fit is real, and not just implied. I consider this information to be more valuable to the opponents, than missin a few nuances in the invites is detrimental.
So it is either a sneaky pass, or a 4♦ preempt.
And yes, I know I am masterminding (a thing I generally hate, especially when partner does it), but I already took that road, when I opened 1♦.
After the session, the merit of the ambigious 2♣-agreement will be scrutinized.
And finally; if I was asked to take the chair of a player that bid 3♦ after 2♠, I would pass 4♠. Bidding on might be right, but the opponents will have all the information they need to do the right thing.
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
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Best Regards Ole Berg
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
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Posted 2010-May-25, 06:50
I hate 3 ♦ too.
It takes away 2 NT 3 Club and 3 ♦? Okay, but it gives them pass and double, so it does not take away so much, because their most likely game try bid had been 3 ♦ anyway.
I had passed 2 Spade and 4 Spade....
It takes away 2 NT 3 Club and 3 ♦? Okay, but it gives them pass and double, so it does not take away so much, because their most likely game try bid had been 3 ♦ anyway.
I had passed 2 Spade and 4 Spade....
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More system is not the answer...
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More system is not the answer...
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Posted 2010-May-25, 07:10
ok, found no supporters on my 5♦ sacrifice 
, well done, diamodns are 2-2 and partner has a slow spade trick to put 4♠ down
he had
♠Q10x
♥Ax
♦109xxx
♣Q9x
, well done, diamodns are 2-2 and partner has a slow spade trick to put 4♠ downhe had
♠Q10x
♥Ax
♦109xxx
♣Q9x
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you bid your 4 card suit 3 times and got a bad score? shocking, but true
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