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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2010-May-22, 06:05

all vul MPs

♠AQJ
♥-
♦KQJ10xxx
♣9xx


1♠-2♦
2♠-??


2♠ means nearly nothing except that he doens't have 4 hearts nor extras (unless 1 suiter) nor 4 diamonds.


Most of your likelly rebids like 4♥ now are gonna get a negative from partner, what next?
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Posted 2010-May-22, 06:46

What do you mean by a "negative" What does partner actually do over 3♠? I mean, if he doesn't bid 4♣ or 4♦, we are off two Aces.
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Posted 2010-May-22, 13:13

If GF has been established (2/1), then I would find 3♦ easy.
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Posted 2010-May-22, 14:33

3♠ and 3♦ are getting 3NT natural from partner
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Posted 2010-May-22, 15:50

I'd bid 3♦, then cue-bid 4♣ over 3NT.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-May-22, 16:11

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3♠ and 3♦ are getting 3NT natural from partner


It's a pity in my opinion that 3NT is natural after 3♠ but all is not lost:

1♠ - 2♦
2♠ - 3♠
3NT - 4♦ = cuebid ♦, no ♣ cuebid, slam invite

Now if partner doesn't have ♣ cuebid he will sign off and we will pass.
If he has ♣/♦ cuebid he will realize that as we invite slam opposite his minium hand lacking ♣ cb he has perfect values for us and won't signoff.
If he has both ♣ and ♥ cuebid he will bid 4♥.

Seems simple ?
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Posted 2010-May-23, 05:36

if you bid 4♦ over 3NT he is gonna bid 4♥
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Posted 2010-May-25, 07:01

I had bid 3 ♠ and 4 ♦ too, given the methods.

4 ♥ shows a club control- good. I would now bid 4 ♠. I made a slam move allready and showed my club weakness. I did not show my heart shortness, but I doubt that this is the key to this hand. So I am fine with limiting my values for now.

If 4 Spade has another meaning, I had started the bidding different- with 2 Diamond, 4 Heart- and pass 4 Spade.
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Posted 2010-May-25, 07:07

its ok Roland, you avoid the dangerous 5 level, partner has

♠10xxxx
♥Axx
♦A
♣KJxx
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