[Jlall]

I view partner's double as hoping for a penalty and x AKxxx Kxx Axxx would be fine, he knows we have a stiff heart very often and he has a stiff spade etc. Either we have somee diamonds or long clubs and will bid 3C. I think partner will double with a lot of 1534 hands quite aggressively. Getting them on this auction should be a priority over finding a game because it should be a very easy situation to get them.

Indeed opposite that hand it might be right to pass even with our actual hand (not that we'd ever do that). I would just bid 3C. We need a ton to make game, and I don't think partner has shown that.

[gnasher]

Jlall, on May 19 2010, 08:37 PM, said:

I view partner's double as hoping for a penalty and x AKxxx Kxx Axxx would be fine, he knows we have a stiff heart very often and he has a stiff spade etc. Either we have somee diamonds or long clubs and will bid 3C. I think partner will double with a lot of 1534 hands quite aggressively. Getting them on this auction should be a priority over finding a game because it should be a very easy situation to get them.

Indeed opposite that hand it might be right to pass even with our actual hand (not that we'd ever do that). I would just bid 3C. We need a ton to make game, and I don't think partner has shown that.

Aren't we fairly close to making game on the example you gave? Add ♣J to it and it's one we want to be in. Add ♣K and we might make six.

[hanp]

Partner had K AKJxx AQx Jxxx. Perhaps you would have rebid 2NT or 3C, it doesn't matter.

2D goes for 800, 3NT and 5C make. We scored 150 which lost 2 IMPs plus the matchpoints to -200 for 2D-4 by our teammates.

[Jlall]

gnasher, on May 19 2010, 02:50 PM, said:

Jlall, on May 19 2010, 08:37 PM, said:

I view partner's double as hoping for a penalty and x AKxxx Kxx Axxx would be fine, he knows we have a stiff heart very often and he has a stiff spade etc. Either we have somee diamonds or long clubs and will bid 3C. I think partner will double with a lot of 1534 hands quite aggressively. Getting them on this auction should be a priority over finding a game because it should be a very easy situation to get them.

Indeed opposite that hand it might be right to pass even with our actual hand (not that we'd ever do that). I would just bid 3C. We need a ton to make game, and I don't think partner has shown that.

Aren't we fairly close to making game on the example you gave? Add ♣J to it and it's one we want to be in. Add ♣K and we might make six.

It's not clear to me that game is that great with the CJ with partner. If we assume RHO has 4 spades and 5 diamonds I don't seem to be in great shape.

Yes if partner has AK K AK then underbidding is bad, I just think people are giving too much weight to that.

[Jlall]

hanp, on May 19 2010, 03:46 PM, said:

Partner had K AKJxx AQx Jxxx. Perhaps you would have rebid 2NT or 3C, it doesn't matter.

2D goes for 800, 3NT and 5C make. We scored 150 which lost 2 IMPs plus the matchpoints to -200 for 2D-4 by our teammates.

I like 2N over 1S but your partner definitely didn't do anything unreasonable.

[jdonn]

Eh I like 4♣ personally. I don't think partner can double with AK K A even expecting they are down, it's just too wide a range to deal with when we could have even 26 (or 27 or ...?) still and I feel our priority should be looking for game.

[gnasher]

[quote name='Jlall' date='May 19 2010, 09:52 PM'] Aren't we fairly close to making game on the example you gave? Add [cl]J to it and it's one we want to be in. Add [cl]K and we might make six. [/QUOTE]
It's not clear to me that game is that great with the CJ with partner. If we assume RHO has 4 spades and 5 diamonds I don't seem to be in great shape. [/quote]
It would be better if I had [cl]9 to protect me from an overruff when East is 4252. For example, if it went diamond to the ace, trump return, cash side winners, spade ruff, heart ruff high, spade ruff, diamond ruff (LHO throwing a spade), spade ruff high, LHO could overuff and promote a trump.

[mcphee]

I also think the opening hand should have tried 2N rather than 2C. It is a bit of a problem now we have failed to raise on the previous round and as we chose to do that we made a problem we are not likely to recover from.