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Another "bid after the hitch"

#21 User is offline   whereagles 

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Posted 2010-May-19, 10:27

I actually have rules as how to interpret this double, which is "take-out of diamonds, penalty of spades", so I would act accordingly, hitch or no hitch.
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Posted 2010-May-19, 10:32

gnasher, on May 18 2010, 10:02 PM, said:

If it was partner who hesitated, you can't take this out unless you explicitly play it as for takeout, ie suggesting shortage in diamonds. Does anyone really play that?

Robson and Segal did when they wrote "Partnership bidding in bridge".
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Posted 2010-May-19, 10:59

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If it was partner who hesitated, you can't take this out unless you explicitly play it as for takeout, ie suggesting shortage in diamonds. Does anyone really play that?



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Robson and Segal did when they wrote "Partnership bidding in bridge".


True but I can't believe a slow double has any firm agreement.

A pair once pulled such a double 3 times in one session and got the same Director who finally walked around the table and told the non-offending side to "hit it and lead trumps".
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Posted 2010-May-19, 11:17

I agree with Han that partner should have just passed 3D. No diamond stopper, intermediate hand, no fit, etc; people should just let these 10-11 counts with no fit and no stopper go.
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Posted 2010-May-19, 11:25

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I agree with Han that partner should have just passed 3D. No diamond stopper, intermediate hand, no fit, etc; people should just let these 10-11 counts with no fit and no stopper go.


How is this no fit ?
Partner on average has 1♠, max 4♥ more likely 2♦ than 3♦ which gives him 5-6-7♣ (most of the time 6). He can also have 15hcp or something.

I prefer 4♣ than passing with that.
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Posted 2010-May-20, 07:23

I had run from the take out double. Easy, because we defined the double that way...

If you did not:
I do not understand the idea of sitting after the hesitation? What had partner shown without the hesitation? Hxx in diamonds and a trap pass? So I have to bid according to this hand, so I try 3 ♥.
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Posted 2010-May-20, 07:29

Codo, on May 20 2010, 02:23 PM, said:

I do not understand the idea of sitting after the hesitation? What had partner shown without the hesitation? Hxx in diamonds and a trap pass? So I have to bid according to this hand, so I try 3 ♥.

If partner has AQxxx Jxx Kxx xx, where do you want to play?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-May-20, 07:43

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If partner has AQxxx Jxx Kxx xx, where do you want to play?


Surely not in this tournament with this partner !
They can easily take overtricks and there is nowhere to run. Even if I somehow have and agreement that double means exactly:

AQxxx Jxx Kxx xx

I wouldn't do it.
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