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Say that's IMPs and wanna hug yr babe, if ya kin. North♠K1098♥AQ52♦8♣A1092 South♠A3♥K43♦AJ9762♣82 Uncontested, ♠ 2 led. Da ya see any trap to avoid? What's yr playin' line?
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Posted 2010-May-17, 02:06
Please use the hand diagrams. This needs to much effort decoding...
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Posted 2010-May-17, 03:17
♠2 lead.
If dummy's ♠8 wins I can work on diamonds. If I have to win in hand I'll work on clubs.
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
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Besides playing for fun, most people also like to play bridge to win
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Posted 2010-May-17, 05:45
Hanoi5, on May 17 2010, 05:17 AM, said:
If dummy's ♠8 wins I can work on diamonds. If I have to win in hand I'll work on clubs.
Try again, read questions.
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Posted 2010-May-17, 09:36
H_KARLUK, on May 16 2010, 09:32 PM, said:
Da ya see any trap to avoid?
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Posted 2010-May-17, 09:42
hug yr babe, if ya kin?
wat?
wat?
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Posted 2010-May-17, 14:55
jjbrr, on May 17 2010, 10:42 AM, said:
hug yr babe, if ya kin?
wat?
wat?
he says that you should hug your wife if she also happens to be your extended family member.
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Posted 2010-May-17, 15:04
I wonder if that is legal.
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Posted 2010-May-19, 09:13
No one would believe the chances in diamonds are good enough to justify playing the ♠K at trick 1 so that's not the trap. Therefore I would do something like Hanoi5: assuming
T1: ♠8,J,A
finesse spade at trick 2 & if it wins the best shot I see is
T3: try a low club, succeeding if the hearts break or something good happens in clubs, or if LHO gets endplayed for another spade trick.
Not so tempted to play diamonds at trick 3 because that might force you to cash ♦A when in with the ♥K, at a time when clubs are still to be developed. But I don't see that as qualifying as a trap.
T1: ♠8,J,A
finesse spade at trick 2 & if it wins the best shot I see is
T3: try a low club, succeeding if the hearts break or something good happens in clubs, or if LHO gets endplayed for another spade trick.
Not so tempted to play diamonds at trick 3 because that might force you to cash ♦A when in with the ♥K, at a time when clubs are still to be developed. But I don't see that as qualifying as a trap.
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Posted 2010-May-19, 09:45
Little Kid, on May 17 2010, 09:04 PM, said:
I wonder if that is legal.
How could a hug be illegal?
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2010-May-19, 10:06
Hugging your wife, big difference!
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Posted 2010-May-19, 13:53
ceeb, on May 19 2010, 11:13 AM, said:
No one would believe the chances in diamonds are good enough to justify playing the ♠K at trick 1 so that's not the trap. Therefore I would do something like Hanoi5: assuming
T1: ♠8,J,A
finesse spade at trick 2 & if it wins the best shot I see is
T3: try a low club, succeeding if the hearts break or something good happens in clubs, or if LHO gets endplayed for another spade trick.
Not so tempted to play diamonds at trick 3 because that might force you to cash ♦A when in with the ♥K, at a time when clubs are still to be developed. But I don't see that as qualifying as a trap.
T1: ♠8,J,A
finesse spade at trick 2 & if it wins the best shot I see is
T3: try a low club, succeeding if the hearts break or something good happens in clubs, or if LHO gets endplayed for another spade trick.
Not so tempted to play diamonds at trick 3 because that might force you to cash ♦A when in with the ♥K, at a time when clubs are still to be developed. But I don't see that as qualifying as a trap.
The trap to avoid on this hand is to not win the ♠A in your hand, but rather, win the K on the dummy and play a diamond to the 9 (if RHO plays low, otherwise, play the J on the 10 and the Ace on an honour. Assuming RHO plays low, LHO will win and lead something back, if it is a spade, and the 10 does not get covered, you are still safe if spades are 4-3, as they appear to be from the OL. Continue with your diamonds by leading the A, and if they were 3-3, or there was honour ten doubleton on your right, you are at home.
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Posted 2010-May-19, 14:48
Can we conclude from that that it was a BBO game?
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-May-19, 20:06
H_KARLUK, on May 19 2010, 02:53 PM, said:
ceeb, on May 19 2010, 11:13 AM, said:
No one would believe the chances in diamonds are good enough to justify playing the ♠K at trick 1 so that's not the trap. Therefore I would [develop 8th trick in spades & hope for the 9th in ♥ or ♣].
The trap to avoid on this hand is to not win the ♠A in your hand, but rather, win the K on the dummy and play a diamond to the 9 ... if they were 3-3, or there was honour ten doubleton on your right, you are at home.
or dry ♦ honor(s) onside.
Diamond 3-3 are equally likely as hearts 3-3.
The extra chances in diamonds compare with the extra chances from clubs or endplaying LHO for a 4th ♠ trick. My feeling was that the club chances are better than the extra diamond chances, and the spade is a bonus. That's why I said the ♠K play seems improbable. I admit I did not calculate.
Edit: We overlooked some additional winning cases for ♦ that may be important -- two honors dry with LHO. Depending on the bidding that could bring the ♦ chances up to 49%. However I still think the ♠8 play is clear. (1) it might win, (2) the extra club trick is around 20% (we'll have to start them with low from the dummy; RHO may not make the best play).
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Posted 2010-May-19, 21:53
H_KARLUK, on May 19 2010, 03:53 PM, said:
The trap to avoid on this hand is to not win the ♠A in your hand, but rather, win the K on the dummy and play a diamond to the 9 (if RHO plays low, otherwise, play the J on the 10 and the Ace on an honour. Assuming RHO plays low, LHO will win and lead something back, if it is a spade, and the 10 does not get covered, you are still safe if spades are 4-3, as they appear to be from the OL. Continue with your diamonds by leading the A, and if they were 3-3, or there was honour ten doubleton on your right, you are at home.
Congratulations on your very much improved English H_Karluk, really well done.
Incidentally, in the USA the usual spelling of the word 'honour' is 'honor', but perhaps your teacher is British. And are you sure you meant to say 'at home', I think if you go back and check you will find you meant to say just 'home'.
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Posted 2010-May-19, 21:56
I don't get it. ♠K, diamond 8 to an honor on your left, club switch. What is your plan?
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Posted 2010-May-20, 02:25
H_KARLUK, on May 19 2010, 08:53 PM, said:
The trap to avoid on this hand is to not win the ♠A in your hand, but rather, win the K on the dummy and play a diamond to the 9
Shouldn't you play a diamond to the jack? That gains against 10x offside, and, so far as I can see, never loses.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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