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#1 User is offline   kfay 

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Posted 2010-May-16, 16:10

Jxx xxx void K109xxxx

r/r, 3rd in hand. IMPs

P-(P)-3-(Dbl)
5-(P)-P-(5)
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Posted 2010-May-16, 16:33

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Posted 2010-May-16, 16:55

PASS you have already accomplished your mission OPPS have the vast majority of power and have GUESSED to play 5h. Sometimes they will be right most of the time they will have guessed WRONG. Do NOT give them another opportunity. For ex you have no strong reason to suspect they cannot make SEVEN in anything but clubs.
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Posted 2010-May-16, 17:01

I have strong reasons to believe that LHO cannot make 7 of either major.
I would would double - we just need partner to have one out of three aces to make it right in theory, and I think he will usually guess right in practice.
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Posted 2010-May-16, 17:05

I like the double.

If partner works out to lead a diamond instead of a spade, and if he has an Ace (outside diamonds?), then the double should get us +200 or so instead of -650 or -680.

My guess is that this upside is more likely than the downside of 5X making 11 or 12 tricks.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2010-May-16, 22:54

partner can lead a diamond if we dont do uble it snot like hes stupid
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Posted 2010-May-17, 02:10

Jlall, on May 17 2010, 05:54 AM, said:

partner can lead a diamond if we dont do uble it snot like hes stupid

He may not be stupid, but he can't see all the cards. Why should we expect him to lead a diamond from K10xxxx on the off-chance that we have a void there?

Or, if we do expect him to do that, how are we going to make up for the losses when he leads a diamond from K10xxxx and we don't have a void?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-May-17, 02:13

655321, on May 17 2010, 12:05 AM, said:

If partner works out to lead a diamond instead of a spade

cherdanno, on May 17 2010, 12:01 AM, said:

I think he will usually guess right in practice.

I'm surprised at the uncertainty implied by these posts. If I doubled, I'd be very confident of getting a diamond lead. It's very hard to imagine a layout where he might think we're void in spades.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-May-17, 07:27

kfay, on May 16 2010, 05:10 PM, said:

Jxx xxx void K109xxxx

r/r, 3rd in hand. IMPs

P-(P)-3-(Dbl)
5-(P)-P-(5)
P-(P)-?

I guess this is a new (at least to me) meta-agreement; vis-a-vis When the non-Captain doubles the opponent's final contract, Lightner applies. As a consequence it would seem to me that a resultant corrollary is Forcing Pass never applies in Captain auctions. Oh wait need to get some more coffee and maybe this will make sense after that.
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Posted 2010-May-17, 08:52

pooltuna, on May 17 2010, 03:27 PM, said:

kfay, on May 16 2010, 05:10 PM, said:

Jxx xxx void K109xxxx

r/r, 3rd in hand.  IMPs

P-(P)-3-(Dbl)
5-(P)-P-(5)
P-(P)-?

I guess this is a new (at least to me) meta-agreement; vis-a-vis When the non-Captain doubles the opponent's final contract, Lightner applies. As a consequence it would seem to me that a resultant corrollary is Forcing Pass never applies in Captain auctions. Oh wait need to get some more coffee and maybe this will make sense after that.

Hope that the coffee did you good Tuna ;). Lightner doubles by a preemptor is hardly a new invention.
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